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Old 08-16-2019, 09:33 AM   #141
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What do they look like?
I guess from reading here if you go to Wal'Mart you will see plenty of them
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This was always an issue with Kmart when I was a youngster. Haven't shopped in Kmart since my early 20s.

Another place where I observed this behavior was a Penneys, in a formerly "upscale" mall where we lived in MD (are there any upscale malls left?) where we shopped during a big Christmas sale. Certain customers, in packs (e.g. mom, grandma and couple of daughters) were tossing the clothing dept like a bunch of pillagers...grabbing armloads of stuff off the shelves, tossing what they didn't want on nearby displays or even on the floor. We got the heck out of there. I felt sorry for anyone working in that store!
Maybe it was Black Friday..according to tradition no one needs to use good manners on Black Friday.
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As far as your manager friend blaming the behavior of problem customers he/she has for being poor seems like biting the hand that feeds you..
Or maybe it's simply an observation by the manager. I have been to Wal Mart locations in highly affluent areas and as I mentioned earlier were very neat and clean...stocked well, polite staff. I have also been to one that isn't in a affluent area and it's 180 degrees off...and I have seen people been taken away in cuffs on 3 different occasions. Yes, there are bad apples in affluent areas and there are good apples in not so affluent areas but there is a trend and it can't be denied...look at any crime map.
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Ivinsfan, do you mean DINK?

How would you know?

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Having said that. I've never seen a dink in my local Aldi's store...
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I'm not offended, just pointing something out. In the manager vain I can't figure out the correct term.. it is they or he/she or perhaps simply repeating the word manager? I agree a person can always find something to nitpick or get offended about …

As far as your manager friend blaming the behavior of problem customers he/she has for being poor seems like biting the hand that feeds you..
She wasn't. I mentioned that I had been to a very nice Walmart in an upscale area and I also commented what a lovely selection of cheese and wine they had at that store, and also how neat an clean it was compared to another store I mentioned. She explained that Walmart allots wage hours based on the total sales of the store so a store selling the same amount of product that doesn't have tons of customer maintenance issues is going to be cleaner and better stocked that one that requires a lot of straightening. There are of course differences due to management.
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Ivinsfan, do you mean DINK?

How would you know?
Not I meant jerk or bad behaving customer...I guess the work dink is old school.
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She wasn't. I mentioned that I had been to a very nice Walmart in an upscale area and I also commented what a lovely selection of cheese and wine they had at that store, and also how neat an clean it was compared to another store I mentioned. She explained that Walmart allots wage hours based on the total sales of the store so a store selling the same amount of product that doesn't have tons of customer maintenance issues is going to be cleaner and better stocked that one that requires a lot of straightening. There are of course differences due to management.
Interesting as in many issues when you dig deeper it's always about corporate chasing the dollar. WalMart making a manager choose between staffing the checkout and keeping the store in good condition. And of course the worse the store looks the more people get turned off and don't shop there.

This detail you included makes me understand why a few certain WalMarts consistently look grubby and unkempt and in reality there is little the manager can do to combat that.
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Or maybe it's simply an observation by the manager. I have been to Wal Mart locations in highly affluent areas and as I mentioned earlier were very neat and clean...stocked well, polite staff. I have also been to one that isn't in a affluent area and it's 180 degrees off...and I have seen people been taken away in cuffs on 3 different occasions. Yes, there are bad apples in affluent areas and there are good apples in not so affluent areas but there is a trend and it can't be denied...look at any crime map.
Did you the post about WalMart not giving the managers money leeway to make sure they can spend the money on necessary store upkeep. That was an interesting detail. I've never seen anyone arrested period.
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I'm trying to understand this business model. Telling a local manager how many wage hours he/she is allowed to pay out, sounds more like government than business. I guess it is to prevent managers from over-hiring, and not leaving a big enough cut for corporate. But if it also results in smaller sales (due to people staying out of crummy stores) it means killing geese, instead of encouraging them to lay golden eggs.

I suppose if I were a manager in that plight, I'd hie myself and dependents over to the store and clean up the durn place ourselves. That is how it often works in govt (donated service), although we're not supposed to do it

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They let local managers make a lot of decisions (there is a lot of oversight though) knowing that their bonuses - which can be nearly half of their total income- is based on profitability, low shrinkage (theft and inventory loss) an increase in sales etc. My friend works 60 hour weeks and that isn't counting all the phonecalls she takes at home. I've seen her leave a party to go unload a truck or solve some other problem. Lots of corporate BS too. I wouldn't have her job for double the pay.
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I'm trying to understand this business model. Telling a local manager how many wage hours he/she is allowed to pay out, sounds more like government than business. I guess it is to prevent managers from over-hiring, and not leaving a big enough cut for corporate. But if it also results in smaller sales (due to people staying out of crummy stores) it means killing geese, instead of encouraging them to lay golden eggs.

I suppose if I were a manager in that plight, I'd hie myself and dependents over to the store and clean up the durn place ourselves. That is how it often works in govt (donated service), although we're not supposed to do it
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I go to Walmart just because people have told me not to. I was running a group event that involved buying supplies, and someone in the group told me I couldn't go to Walmart to get the supplies. Not that they were putting in the effort to run it or anything... they were just telling me what to do based on their beliefs. I believe my parents called these "busybodies." She calls herself an "advocate." Whatever.

I discovered that our local Walmarts have better selection and are just as clean and efficient as Targets. So now I go to Walmart a lot.

There are a few things I won't buy there. I don't like the look of their centrally processed ground beef. Central processing also has a higher degree of e-coli exposure risk.

Otherwise, it's my store.

As for when to shop? 7 to 8 am is a good time.
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Went to Walmart last week to try to replace my old fashioned crockpot as Target did not carry that model. I had dropped and bent the exterior part so took the ceramic insert into the store to see if I could find the exact replacement and then have two inserts. Parked the cart that included insert and a few other items an aisle away from restroom and when I got back the cart was gone. Spent 30 minutes looking for my cart and bean stained crockpot insert but could not find it.

Then looked at Instant Pots which I was considering buying anyway, and realized that it also functioned as a slow cooker. But Walmart did not have any DUO models and I want to try the yogurt maker on the DUO. So I bought a few grocery items I needed and left. Probably won't be back for 6 months or a year. Hope my crockpot insert found a good home.
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I always feel out-of-place when I visit Walmart. No matter how grubby I happen to be at the time. Honestly, I feel like I need to "dress down" prior to going to a Walmart.


The place gives me the creeps. I honestly believe that mankind sets the bar just a little bit lower at Walmart.
Got it. You don't care to be around lower class folks.
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I don’t think this person is dressed up to go to Walmart and thus needs to “dress down”. I think they mean going to the store in your house shoes/slippers and pajamas etc—see it often in my Walmart. Being lower class does not mean you can’t present yourself appropriately.
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I don’t think this person is dressed up to go to Walmart and thus needs to “dress down”. I think they mean going to the store in your house shoes/slippers and pajamas etc—see it often in my Walmart. Being lower class does not mean you can’t present yourself appropriately.
Bold by me. Ironically, several years ago in Shanghai this was all the rage. And it was done to prove you were well to do, because only the wealthy could afford to live in the posh areas of Shanghai and walk to the store in their PJ's and slippers.
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Oh well, to each their own! It’s not just in Walmart, they come to the schools to pick up their kids this way too.
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I will say some of the “best dressed” collages on the internet come from photos taken at WM. The dress code went out a couple decades ago
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Oh well, to each their own! It’s not just in Walmart, they come to the schools to pick up their kids this way too.
How about the hotel breakfast room, well at least they have a sign saying you need to wear a shirt and some shoes.
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I actually saw a woman in Walmart last week with 3 barefoot kids. But I do live in rural Al. My friend escorted someone out when they brought their pet snake to the store...
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Our local Walmart does sell guns and ammo, but you'll need a good bit of time and luck to buy any. It "seems" like there is "never" anyone in the sporting goods dept. I once bought some ammo there and it took about 20 mins. First I had to go ask someone in another dept to "call" someone to the sporting goods dept. Once they arrived they had to find someone with a key to the ammo cabinets. Then they wanted me to pay for it in that dept. (No self checkout for ammo, which I can understand) Yep, then it took a while to get the cash register unlocked and to accept my payment. No ID checks or paper work required for ammo purchases here in Texas.

Here in NM the Walmart's stopped selling firearms this year. The reactions I heard from the gun community was a solid 'who cares'. Your experience could be part of the reason why. They either felt it would help the mom & pop gun stores, or they bought there firearms at Cabella's anyway.
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