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Old 04-12-2007, 09:45 AM   #1
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Camped last night in a casino campground, waiting out a snow storm. It cost 20 dollars, but we got $15 back in slot machine vouchers. This was exciting, I have never been gambling and never have tried a slot machine. Our plan was to feed the voucher to the machine, bet 25 cents, and any time we won, cash out the winnings. Won $16.25! So we camped for $3.75. Yeah! We also ate at the lunch buffet: $4.00 for the over 50 crowd.

Watching the people, mostly elderly, at the machines going through their money was rather frightening. Cigarettes and coffee in hand, feeding $20s to the slots. Jonesing for the all American drug.



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Old 04-12-2007, 09:50 AM   #2
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I went to a riverboat casino the other night, just for something to do while the wife was out. I'd never been to a casino before, and I agree it was kinda scary.

I had no idea that smoking was so essential to gambling.

I blew through the $12 I happened to have in my wallet. Have to admit I don't see the appeal, sitting at a slot pressing a button over and over again, watching your money deplete to zero.

I guess a room filled with terminals where you could pump dollars into an index fund wouldn't be very succesful.

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Watching the people, mostly elderly, at the machines going through their money was rather frightening. Cigarettes and coffee in hand, feeding $20s to the slots. Jonesing for the all American drug.
Yup. Been to a casino exactly once (Atlantic City). Ugh. Never again. Degenerate effing gamblers. Not only do I not see the appeal, I have a hard time understanding how people can stand to be in that environment.
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I'm working in a casino now. Well not right now, but I'll be there tonight. Talk about depressing. I like to watch people and many of those sitting in front of the machines look very sad and bored. Many of my co-workers have the same look.

I've seen people literally wet themselves because they didn't want to get up and go to the restroom.
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DH gambled a twenty one time he was in Atlantic City for business, first and last time he set foot in a casino. Said it was like "Taking a bath in greed". I went once in Shreveport when I was there for a football game--much the same reaction.
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I've seen people literally wet themselves because they didn't want to get up and go to the restroom.
As much as I want to believe you are joking, I am pretty much sure you aren't.

Dad hits the AC casinos at least once a week and goes to Vegas something like 10X a year. I simply cannot fathom it.
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I've been in casinos many times. I like to watch the players at the craps tables. One time in LV we hit it on a slot and had a bucket of quarters. Cashed out then used some spare change in a slot at the airport. Hit again and got on the plane with another bucket.

But I agree that it is a special breed that frequents them regularly. They have a unique vacant stare after being drained of their cash.
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About 20 years ago, the young wife and I went to Nova Scotia on the ferry boat from Portland, Maine. It is an 8-10 hour trip. Going there was okay -- it was an overnight trip -- we ate dinner, then went to bed, and in the morning we were in Canada. However, coming back during the day was what I envision Hell to be like.

The boat was lined stem to stern, gunwale to gunwale, with slot machines, which they turned on as soon as were three miles out to sea. Almost every one of the machines featured a chain smoker putting the coins in the machine and pulling the handle with metronomic efficiency. It was very disturbing. I was really surprised to see that some machines had spectators, who would cheer and groan appropriately as the wheels spun to a stop. The attraction to playing the slots is inexplicable enough to me, but I just can't imagine what would make a person want to watch someone else play them.

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If you get a chance, go to a very low-stakes blackjack table or craps game anytime after midnight. The slot players tend to keep to themselves, but the down-and-outers at a craps game or blackjack table in the low-rent district are a more lively bunch.
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I know one person that gambling paid off . She won 250000 on a slot machine. The rest of the people I know routinely get their butts kicked in Casino's .
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I've seen people literally wet themselves because they didn't want to get up and go to the restroom.
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To be fair, this also happens to many of us busily posting on the forum.
Does it hapen to anyone here? Depends . . .

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At least one of the smaller RiverBoat casinos features a brightly painted bus that picks up loyal customers, makes a stop at the "payday loan" place and then the casino. I just don't know how these casinos can afford all this customer service

Of course I'm assuming all these bus riders maxed out the 401K before they hopped aboard
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Dh and I go to Foxwoods in Conn. about once a year. We take only what we would spend on an evening out and no more. We have fun, walk around looking at all the sights have lunch or dinner, if we win fine, if we don't then that's fine too. We don't go there looking to hit it big, to us it's entertainment. It also helps that most of the time we come home with more than we started out with or break even.

We also were on the Nova Scotia Ferry for a company outing, that bothered me because we were captives, there was nothing to do besides gamble or sit on the deck and freeze. It's not something we'd pay to do and I remember us both thinking that out loud to each other.

I'll bet ( haha) that all those people you see sitting at the slots, sucking down free drinks and puffing away on butts are the same ones littering the doorstep of the convenience stores with uses scratch tickets. Sad, very sad.
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I used to go to alot of conventions at casinos - what always amazed me was that on my way to the hall at 7:30am the slots were full w/ people smoking, drinking and looking miserable. How long could you live w/ this lifestyle - what is really disturbing is that.....this was prob. their vacation!
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I do enjoy the random casino trip for fun. (about once every other year!) I have a set budget, and my goal is to play it as long as I can. Was in the Wisconsin Dells a few years ago for a recruiting function...took the bus to the Ho-Chunk casino after the Navy festivities each night...arrived no earlier than 11....sat at the cheap seats ($5 blackjack)...got to know all the dealers pretty well (we were there 4 consecutive nights - definitely not a down and out bunch at all - quite the rowdy crowd)...closed the tables at 5 am all four nights/mornings....budget was $100 for the week... came out a couple hundred ahead. I also like the nickle slots! BF and I were in AC last year for a beer convention we were working at as vendors...and our nickle slot winnings Sunday am ($125) paid for our hotel & breakfast!
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I am sitting in the lobby of the casino catching up a bit on the net. I kinda have to pee, but haven't wanted to put the computer away yet. . . .
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At one time I used to frequent two casinos a lot. One would put out food at about 2 or 3 am. The way I figured it was me and the wife would each go with $20, we'd drink as much booze as we wanted smoked as many cigarettes as we wanted and eat as much as we wanted. The $40 would have been spent on booze at our other night spots so the casino was a bargain. The other one I would go to was almost like a bank account. I think I left lighter than I came two times out of about the 50 times I went, but I stayed away from the slots like they were covered in plague.
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The slot machines just show the power of intermittent reinforcement. Every once in a while, but not too often, you win a little. Just keeps you wanting to try for more. I am staying far away, except to gamble this nights camping voucher.
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