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Old 05-28-2015, 04:44 AM   #241
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My trading account is up 28% so far this year. )

What is your current trading account book ?
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What is your current trading account book ?
~100K
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:47 AM   #243
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Book = stock portfolio (tickers)
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:26 AM   #244
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Book = stock portfolio (tickers)
I thought you meant book value. I usually just say holdings to be clear.

Right now I have:

Gilead (my favorite stock)
Endocyte (just 1500 shares in case they hit it big on cancer drug)
Short Seadrill (but just closed those puts today and may go long soon)
Corning covered call position with calls sold at Jan 2016 $20 strike
Thompson Creek Metals 2019 bonds, purchased below par at 15% return
Microsoft covered calls, expiring Jan 2016 $40 strike

$20k cash waiting for opportunities.
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:38 AM   #245
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My trading account is up 28% so far this year. Don't get too excited, because it was up 70% last year in August and I finished dead even with the S&P500. I have even more time to waste my gains this year. At least I won't lose the gains the same way this year (oil drop got me last year)
I thought my 14% trading account profit was good. Nice job!
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:49 AM   #246
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I thought my 14% trading account profit was good. Nice job!
Wow, both of you did really well! I just ran my numbers, and my trading account is up about 8.8% as of yesterday's close. My whole portfolio is up about 6.5%, so that's an indication the individual stocks are outperforming my mutual funds. For the time being, at least...
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I thought my 14% trading account profit was good. Nice job!
Thanks, but remember that last year I lost almost all of my gains due to the drop in oil and my positions there.

A lot of this year's gain has been due to revenge shorting of stocks like Seadrill where I lost my money long last year. I was late to the short party but it doesn't seem to be over (very volatile though).
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Old 05-28-2015, 10:02 AM   #248
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I focus on 3,5 and 10 year return (including dividends) rather than YTD. What I do is get the 3, 5 and 10 year value of 10,000 for my benchmarks off of Morningstar, apply the weightings of my target 60/34/6 AA to get a portfolio value and then compute the annual return using Excel's rate function given the term, beginning value of 10,000 and ending value.

I then compare the benchmark to my actual portfolio returns for 3, 5 and 10 years from Quicken's Investment Performance report. I do this analysis periodically, usually annually.

This thread prodded me to update the analysis.

  Growth of $10,000  
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 Target AA3 year5 year10 year
VTSAX42.0% 17,090 21,982 22,706
VTIAX16.2% 14,465 15,687 17,710
VEMAX1.8% 12,461 13,370 23,304
VFICX21.8% 11,198 13,090 16,981
VWEAX5.4% 12,427 15,424 19,724
VTABX (proxy: RPIBX)5.8% 9,386 10,760 12,693
VGAVX (proxy: PREMX)1.0% 11,400 13,231 20,249
VMMXX6.0% 10,005 10,017 11,644
Portfolio100.0% 14,117 17,060 19,232
     
Benchmark return 12.2%11.3%6.8%
My actual return 12.4%10.7%6.6%
Difference 0.2%-0.6%-0.2%

Is there a function to import the 3, 5 and 10 year growth of 10,000 values or average annual return including dividends for specific tickers? If so, that would make my process easier.
As an aside, I'm curious as to why you have VEMAX (Emerging Mkts Idx) in your portfolio. VTIAX already includes emerging in its index, are you looking to overweight it a bit? Also, some of your funds are Investor Shares and some are Admiral so the ER is a little higher.
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Old 05-28-2015, 10:40 AM   #249
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Thanks, but remember that last year I lost almost all of my gains due to the drop in oil and my positions there.

A lot of this year's gain has been due to revenge shorting of stocks like Seadrill where I lost my money long last year. I was late to the short party but it doesn't seem to be over (very volatile though).
It does seem like your trading style lends to much more volatility than mine.
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Old 05-28-2015, 12:22 PM   #250
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Pretty much how I use GoogleFinance too, bringing it up on the notebook while having my breakfast to get a quick snapshot of where things are at. Created a couple of "what if" formulas (purely for entertainment purposes, as everything can change in a heartbeat) for looking into the future, given current YTD rate of return calculated from actual values:

Where:
B1="Actual YTD %"
B2="Actual Current Value"
B3="Future Value"
B4="Future Date"

The formulas:
=today()+round(nper((365/datedif(date(year(today()),1,1),today(),"D")*B1)/365,0,B2,-B3),0)
=fv((B1/datedif(date(year(today()),1,1),today(),"d")),date (year(B4),month(B4),day(B4))-today(),0,-B2,0)
Assuming a constant return of YTD %, return the date on which portfolio will reach "Future Value", and the portfolio Future Value on the given "Future Date"

I use the second one to estimate (dream about) what an account earmarked for future use might be worth when it is tapped for distributions.
Thesus, did you create this formula yourself? If so, KUDOS!
The one I made for myself is much less elegant but does provide similar results. But....nice job.
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My trading account is up 28% so far this year. Don't get too excited, because it was up 70% last year in August and I finished dead even with the S&P500. I have even more time to waste my gains this year. At least I won't lose the gains the same way this year (oil drop got me last year)
Mines are up 19% and 11% (two trading accounts). Overall YTD is up 5%. Leaders are international funds. Laggards are Gold fund. Moved some bond fund into international ones.
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As an aside, I'm curious as to why you have VEMAX (Emerging Mkts Idx) in your portfolio. VTIAX already includes emerging in its index, are you looking to overweight it a bit? Also, some of your funds are Investor Shares and some are Admiral so the ER is a little higher.
Emerging markets are about 9.4% of the Total World ETF and no VEMAX would result in my being significantly underweighted in emerging markets. If I had no VEMAX I would only have about 5.7% in emerging markets (30% VTIAX * 19.1% emerging markets in VTIAX). Making the mix 27% VTIAX and 3% VEMAX increases my emerging markets to about 8.2% [(27% * 19.1%) +(3%*100%)], closer to the 9.4%. Perhaps I should consider increasing it a bit.

Good catch on VFICX... (that is the only non-Admiral fund that i could find). I changed it to VFIDX but any difference gets lost in rounding in the returns.
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I seldom if ever check my accounts prior to the end of the year when I review and rebalance if necessary. This year I will be taking my initial RMD so I will probably be altering that process. I still like to review the quarterly paper summaries the VG sends to me. Other than that I don't peek.
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Old 05-30-2015, 03:55 PM   #255
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Entire 60/40 Portfolio....+3.5%
Trading acct (5% of entire portfolio)....+12.4%
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When I chart my trading account vs the S&P500 I can sort of see the correlation (if I squint). I certainly have more volatility than the S&P500 but higher gains too.
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I'll have to double-check when I get home, but I think I ended May up 5.9% for the year.
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Old 06-03-2015, 12:25 PM   #259
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When I chart my trading account vs the S&P500 I can sort of see the correlation (if I squint). I certainly have more volatility than the S&P500 but higher gains too.

I think you might be using the price index instead of TR.


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I am up 3.05% without contributions for the year. It seems I've been about a 1/2 pt in front of the S&P all year.

I use google finance and I track performance on an individual and overall portfolio level. Tracked YTD, Past 6mos, SincePurchase and Overall Gains vs S&P. All of this is tracked realtime thanks to the awesome capabilities of Google Finance. I only need to add in the YTD Contributions to slice that piece of data out.
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