Portal Forums Links Register FAQ Community Calendar Log in

Join Early Retirement Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-01-2019, 12:40 PM   #41
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
NW-Bound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 35,712
Quote:
Originally Posted by gstillson View Post
I don't want to jinx anything but I kind of feel like stocks have reached a permanently high plateau or something.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sengsational View Post
NOW you did it! Get ready for a huge plunge!
...
Fear not.

He's a stock picker/market timer/day trader. His performance (or lack of it as it may be) does not necessarily reflect what happens to the rest of us.
__________________
"Old age is the most unexpected of all things that happen to a man" -- Leon Trotsky (1879-1940)

"Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities Can Make You Commit Atrocities" - Voltaire (1694-1778)
NW-Bound is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 02-01-2019, 01:19 PM   #42
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
dixonge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Jalisco, Mexico
Posts: 1,747
9.67% YTD - Simplified in November, moved everything to an equal weight S&P fund. Total brokerage is almost back to September levels!
dixonge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2019, 01:48 PM   #43
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Crownsville
Posts: 3,746
Quote:
Originally Posted by NW-Bound View Post
I am not Chinese nor superstitious, but in the past whenever I feel complacent or so sure of something, I overlook something else that jumps up and bites me in the behind.

And that goes beyond investing too.

I try not to be superstitious, but I'm convinced the reason the market got so sketchy in October is because I bought a house in September! It did it just to make me feel antsy about getting back into a mortgage!
Andre1969 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2019, 02:03 PM   #44
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 497
8.92% YTD - I'm glad to see that the strategy of doing nothing when the market is down, has continued to be the right strategy.
__________________
ER Target = May 2024
Jeffman52 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2019, 06:02 PM   #45
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 8,421
But let's not get too excited. IIRC, 2018 started out with a similar run-up in January.
__________________
Living well is the best revenge!
Retired @ 52 in 2005
marko is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2019, 06:14 PM   #46
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: North
Posts: 4,043
1/31 +10% YTD Over half recovered from my terrible Nov/Dec '18
__________________
Time > $$$ ~ 100% equities ~ FIRE @2031
kgtest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2019, 07:12 PM   #47
gone traveling
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: NW Ohio
Posts: 1,156
Quote:
Originally Posted by marko View Post
But let's not get too excited. IIRC, 2018 started out with a similar run-up in January.
That's OK if we can all properly time it, to sell in October ! .....right ?
ckelly78z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2019, 07:57 PM   #48
Recycles dryer sheets
kite_rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 127
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre1969 View Post
I had to wait until this morning to get all the totals in, but it looks like for the month of January, my return is about 7.94%. Hopefully, it holds! I've now "made back" more in 2019, than what I "lost" in all of 2018.
I don't usually check my 1 month returns, but I did and got 7.94% too! Maybe we are soul brothers?

Anyway, Dec 31 was so awful almost any portfolio should look good by comparison..
kite_rider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2019, 08:00 PM   #49
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Tampa
Posts: 11,300
Perhaps not that many buy and hold investors with 60/40 AA, with all the reported 8%+ returns.
__________________
TGIM
Dtail is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2019, 08:28 PM   #50
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
NW-Bound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 35,712
Quote:
Originally Posted by marko View Post
... I've often mentioned how I prefer to monitor a 3 year average because it smooths out the roller coaster a bit. My 3 year is 9.5% despite '18 being a dog.
Quote:
Originally Posted by NW-Bound View Post
You made me look.

My 3-year return of 1/31/2016-1/31/2019 is 34.34% cumulative.

Annualized, it's 10.34%/year. Stock AA has been around 70%, with the rest mostly in cash...
Just reviewed the MFs in some of my smaller accounts which I do not pay a lot of attention to. Rediscovered 2 accounts from which Quicken stopped being able to download. I was going to look into that, but forgot. And it has been more than 2 years. Gah!

So, I had to look up the account info to log into those Web sites to pull statements to update Quicken by hand. And with the 2 years of re-invested dividends properly posted in these smaller accounts, my 3-year cumulative return is now 34.87%.

Annualized, it's 10.49%/year.

For the sake of accurate accounting...
__________________
"Old age is the most unexpected of all things that happen to a man" -- Leon Trotsky (1879-1940)

"Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities Can Make You Commit Atrocities" - Voltaire (1694-1778)
NW-Bound is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2019, 08:33 PM   #51
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
NW-Bound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 35,712
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dtail View Post
Perhaps not that many buy and hold investors with 60/40 AA, with all the reported 8%+ returns.
Some have a higher stock AA than 60%. And they stepped up to buy at the 2018 year-end bottom. Or they loaded up on the stocks that got dumped the most, and have since rebounded strongest.

Only time will tell if these gains will not evaporate in a week, or a month.
__________________
"Old age is the most unexpected of all things that happen to a man" -- Leon Trotsky (1879-1940)

"Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities Can Make You Commit Atrocities" - Voltaire (1694-1778)
NW-Bound is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2019, 09:58 PM   #52
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 2,745
Quote:
Originally Posted by marko View Post
But let's not get too excited. IIRC, 2018 started out with a similar run-up in January.

We are optimistic lot and have short memory.
robnplunder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2019, 10:16 PM   #53
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 442
+5.79%
72/23/5 (Stock/Bond/Cash)
Glad I stayed invested thru the last quarter's correction.
Rickt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2019, 07:17 AM   #54
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Crownsville
Posts: 3,746
Quote:
Originally Posted by kite_rider View Post
I don't usually check my 1 month returns, but I did and got 7.94% too! Maybe we are soul brothers?

Anyway, Dec 31 was so awful almost any portfolio should look good by comparison..
Wow, small world! Anyway, hopefully it's onward and upward from here!

Also, not to obsess over it, but thanks to a slight upward tick yesterday, I'm now at 8.16%. All I need is a slight hiccup, in the right direction, to get me to 8.52%, and that would make 2019 my third best year, on a strictly dollar basis (rather than rate of return).

It's kinda cool to think that, theoretically, over the course of just the first month and a few extra days, 2019 could be my third best year, even if the year was flat for the remaining 10+ months. Although, seeing the market stay flat for 10+ months, can be its own form of aggravation. Funny, how the human mind can work.
Andre1969 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2019, 08:21 AM   #55
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
NW-Bound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 35,712
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre1969 View Post
Wow, small world! Anyway, hopefully it's onward and upward from here!

Also, not to obsess over it, but thanks to a slight upward tick yesterday, I'm now at 8.16%. All I need is a slight hiccup, in the right direction, to get me to 8.52%, and that would make 2019 my third best year, on a strictly dollar basis (rather than rate of return).

It's kinda cool to think that, theoretically, over the course of just the first month and a few extra days, 2019 could be my third best year, even if the year was flat for the remaining 10+ months. Although, seeing the market stay flat for 10+ months, can be its own form of aggravation. Funny, how the human mind can work.
I did also wish that the market would stay flat after the late summer of 2018.
__________________
"Old age is the most unexpected of all things that happen to a man" -- Leon Trotsky (1879-1940)

"Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities Can Make You Commit Atrocities" - Voltaire (1694-1778)
NW-Bound is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2019, 08:33 AM   #56
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Spanky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 4,455
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dtail View Post
Perhaps not that many buy and hold investors with 60/40 AA, with all the reported 8%+ returns.
Seems that those posted that kind of return is 100% equity. Good luck! They won't be posting their return if the market takes a 50% drop.
__________________
May we live in peace and harmony and be free from all human sufferings.
Spanky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2019, 08:36 AM   #57
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
audreyh1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Rio Grande Valley
Posts: 38,153
Up around 5% YTD in our taxable retirement fund (50/50), well more than making up for our Jan annual income withdrawal.
__________________
Retired since summer 1999.
audreyh1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2019, 08:44 AM   #58
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
steelyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: NC Triangle
Posts: 5,807
Quicken tells me that small and mid-cap funds helped boost performance over expected in January. I recall they did well early in 2018 but dragged things down later on.

I follow the VTHRX high-level (stock/bond) allocation, currently about 70/30 but I overweight the extended market in specific fund choices.
__________________

steelyman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2019, 10:21 AM   #59
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
dixonge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Jalisco, Mexico
Posts: 1,747
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spanky View Post
Seems that those posted that kind of return is 100% equity. Good luck! They won't be posting their return if the market takes a 50% drop.

It's perfectly safe when your nest egg is 'extra' on top of well-run fully funded pensions...
dixonge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2019, 10:31 AM   #60
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 276
Quote:
Originally Posted by dixonge View Post
It's perfectly safe when your nest egg is 'extra' on top of well-run fully funded pensions...
Or for those without pensions, it is also perfectly safe if your nest egg is $10,000,000 such that a 50% drop still leaves you with a bit of coin.
gstillson is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2017 YTD investment performance thread robnplunder FIRE and Money 706 01-08-2018 11:26 PM
2016 YTD investment performance thread robnplunder FIRE and Money 864 02-01-2017 08:45 AM
2015 YTD investment performance thread robnplunder FIRE and Money 689 01-21-2016 06:28 AM

» Quick Links

 
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:08 PM.
 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.