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12-29-2010, 06:57 AM
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7 billion people
Interesting video on global population growth.
I always wonder how much of a country's economic / stock market growth is simply a function of its underlying demographics.
Read somewhere where author believes US growth in prosperity from 1982 onward is nearly totally explained by the baby boomers entering workforce.
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12-29-2010, 07:21 AM
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7 billion people is depressing.
Years ago, Isaac Asimov was featured on a show that interviewed visionaries. When he was asked a question something like what was the most important thing in the world, he said, reducing our population. If we can't do that, nothing we do to save species, reduce pollution, etc, will do any good. He did not impress the interviewer, who went on to do several shows interviewing a poet.
The world population must have been about 5 million at that time.
Our kids and their kids will not have a good time of it.
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12-29-2010, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed_The_Gypsy
7 billion people is depressing.
Years ago, Isaac Asimov was featured on a show that interviewed visionaries.
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The world population must have been about 5 million at that time.
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Ed,
Asimov was old, but not that old 
World population was estimated to be about 5 mil around 8000 BC ( prehistory: Definition from Answers.com )
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12-29-2010, 07:50 AM
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 My bad. 5 BILLION.
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12-29-2010, 12:07 PM
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Look at this another way.
If all 7 Billion of those people lived in Texas,(substitute France, Afghanistan, Burma, Somalia- the math is the same.) the population density would be less than that of Greater NYC, according to the 2000 Census. And at 268,500 square miles Texas represents less than one half of 1% of the total land area in the world. Excluding Anarctica, there would still be 52,000,000 square miles of uninhabited landmass on Planet Earth.
7 billion is a lot of people, but the world is also a very big place.
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12-29-2010, 12:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Westernskies
If all 7 Billion of those people lived in Texas, the population density would be less than that of Greater NYC, according to the 2000 Census.
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Hey, that sounds like fun. Let's all move to Texas. With so many people, we can trample out all the scorpions, eat all the rattle snakes (I have heard fried up, they are like chicken nuggets), and spray away all of the chiggers.
Just don't tell REWahoo beforehand.
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12-29-2010, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Westernskies
If all 7 Billion of those people lived in Texas,...
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...the traffic in Muleshoe would be as bad as in Houston.
...the state bird would be the middle finger.
...the chiggers, scorpions and spiders would still outnumber people.
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12-29-2010, 12:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Westernskies
7 billion is a lot of people, but the world is also a very big place.
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And quite willing to accomodate many more:
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12-29-2010, 12:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REWahoo
...the traffic in Muleshoe would be as bad as in Houston.
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...not after all the fuedin', fightin', and shootin' started.
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12-29-2010, 01:09 PM
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If all 7 billion people lived in Texas each would have more than 1000 square feet of living room.
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12-29-2010, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RonBoyd
And quite willing to accomodate many more:
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Amazing. I always thought that people could be far more efficient with their use of space. Who really needs a 2,000+ square foot home?
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12-29-2010, 01:26 PM
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If all 7 Billion of those people lived in Texas
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That argument has been debunked long ago, but it's still repeated.
Overpopulation: Let Us All Move to Texas | Socyberty
The Texas Myth
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I wonder if the world population were 2 billion today. Would there be any disadvantages to that?
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That apartment set up is very interesting. But I have been thinking that I would not be sliding down the happiness scale if I were to sell my homes to live full-time in my little motor home of 8'x25', which is even smaller than that apartment.
What I am really curious is how they arrange for fresh water supply, sewage, and garbage collection in Hong Kong, or any densely populated places like that. That urban engineering feat is truly amazing.
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12-29-2010, 02:30 PM
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The apartment doesn't have a bathroom, so that solves the sewage issue.
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12-29-2010, 02:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REWahoo
...the traffic in Muleshoe would be as bad as in Houston.
...the state bird would be the middle finger.
...the chiggers, scorpions and spiders would still outnumber people.
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In other words... California?
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12-29-2010, 04:22 PM
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The apartment doesn't have a bathroom, so that solves the sewage issue.
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Yeah, like I used to tell the kids (and still tell DW) while on road trips, "Well, just hold it. We'll be there in half an hour... or so."
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12-29-2010, 04:31 PM
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T-Al, how do you debunk the math?
7,000,000,000
268,581 sq miles = 26,063 people/square mile
2000 Census : NYC /Surrounding Boroughs = 26,517 people/square mile
26,517>26,063
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12-29-2010, 04:37 PM
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T-Al, how do you debunk the math?
7,000,000,000
268,581 sq miles = 26,063 people/square mile
2000 Census : NYC /Surrounding Boroughs = 26,517people/square mile
26,517>26,063
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Get a few to sit on someone's lap.
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12-29-2010, 09:03 PM
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The video did show a soaking bathtub, so I think it has a toilet which was not shown.
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The apartment doesn't have a bathroom, so that solves the sewage issue.
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Yeah, like I used to tell the kids (and still tell DW) while on road trips, "Well, just hold it. We'll be there in half an hour... or so."
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You have a motor home with a bathroom, for crying out loud. Just pull over and let your wife do her thing. Good grief!
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12-29-2010, 10:11 PM
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I wonder if the world population were 2 billion today. Would there be any disadvantages to that?
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None whatsoever....as long as you weren't one of the 5 billion alive yesterday that suddenly had to go 'poof'.
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