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Old 04-13-2014, 09:10 PM   #1
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Advisor Fees Dropping

All I can say is it's about time this happens!

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I think one of the biggest trends we'll see over the next decade are financial management fees falling like a rock. They've already dropped in recent years, but there's still enormous fat to cut. Not only will AUM fees be pressured to decline, but the way advisors charge may be upended. The winner is you, the investor.
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Old 04-13-2014, 11:48 PM   #2
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All I can say is it's about time this happens!

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Yay! This has been a thorny subject around here that I have harped on to the great consternation of some (including me) at times. Nice to see the popular press take up this absurd model of compensation.
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Long overdue.

However, I just talked with a friend who recently left a major wirehouse because they just INCREASED the base fees they charge their clients, especially the "smaller (less than $1mm)" clients. Talk about hubris!
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Long overdue.

However, I just talked with a friend who recently left a major wirehouse because they just INCREASED the base fees they charge their clients, especially the "smaller (less than $1mm)" clients. Talk about hubris!
This happened to me with my last financial advisor before I found my current flat rate guy. They called us in for a meeting to introduce their new fee structure. I said, "that is very interesting. Here is my counter offer. No. Give me a flat rate fee like this competitor is offering or I walk." And I did. Reminded me of the scene in Godfather Part II when Michael tells the Senator trying to shake him down that not only will he not pay the Senator a bribe to help him get his gambling license but that he expects the Senator to pay the license fee for him. I loved it. (my wife was less thrilled with the drama)
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This happened to me with my last financial advisor before I found my current flat rate guy. They called us in for a meeting to introduce their new fee structure. I said, "that is very interesting. Here is my counter offer. No. Give me a flat rate fee like this competitor is offering or I walk." And I did. Reminded me of the scene in Godfather Part II when Michael tells the Senator trying to shake him down that not only will he not pay the Senator a bribe to help him get his gambling license but that he expects the Senator to pay the license fee for him. I loved it. (my wife was less thrilled with the drama)
When you say that "you walked," did you go DIY? Or are you still paying "the bribe," just less?

As I recall, Michael paid nothing as opposed to finding another corrupt politician who would accept less.
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When you say that "you walked," did you go DIY? Or are you still paying "the bribe," just less?

As I recall, Michael paid nothing as opposed to finding another corrupt politician who would accept less.
You got me there... I walked across the street to an advisor at about a fourth of the cost. Also Michael did pay some people to murder a call girl and frame the senator...I did not do anything like that.
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From what I've noticed a lot of the big shops charges drop as the AUM increase thus it gets cheaper the more you have.


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From what I've noticed a lot of the big shops charges drop as the AUM increase thus it gets cheaper the more you have.


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Uh, no that is Advisor snake oil... The "percentage" goes lower the more you have, but the amount of money they extract from you keeps getting bigger--not big as fast, but bigger...definitely NOT cheaper. They charge you more, but they do not really do anything more...not cheaper by any definition I understand.
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