American Funds (without 5.75% sales load) vs. Vanguard?

drb111 · 09-12-2007, 09:06 PM

If you could invest in the American Funds at NAV...would you put your $$ there or in Vanguard Index funds?

Thx

FIREdreamer · 09-12-2007, 09:11 PM

I'd probably still go with Vanguard because of their rock bottom expense ratios...

LOL! · 09-12-2007, 09:36 PM

Vanguard without a doubt. I think any American fund that has done better than its benchmark is because it cheats. For example, maybe a fund is large cap and beats the S&P500 but only because the fund also holds some foreign large cap.

chinaco · 09-13-2007, 02:53 AM

VG. No question about it. Consider others if there is not a similar investment via VG or low-cost ETF.

Ask yourself the opposite question Why would I buy fund x from company y instead of a similar fund at VG?

FinanceDude · 09-13-2007, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drb111

If you could invest in the American Funds at NAV...would you put your $$ there or in Vanguard Index funds?
Thx

That's where my MF are, and I am able to buy at NAV. I really don't care if American Funds "cheats" by going to cash in bad markets or that some of their funds don't "mirror" an index, because that's what index funds are for. In market downturns, I have done substantially better than VG, in bull markets, everyone makes money.........

I use ETF's to buy whatever "index" I want in my taxable accounts. I am sure I am in the minority on here who can say that.............

Nothing wrong with being a Boglehead........

Spanky · 09-13-2007, 10:32 PM

tryan · 09-14-2007, 07:45 AM

Where can one buy into American Funds wo the load?

A neighbor is an Edward Jones rep ... came and pitched me (suit n'all) to switch my 401k over to American. Told him the load was a killer ... buuut if he could show me how much better I'ld do ... (gave him my Fidelity fund names).

He never came back.

FinanceDude · 09-14-2007, 09:46 AM

[quote=tryan;556080]Where can one buy into American Funds wo the load? ]/quote]

Well, I am an advisor, so I that's why............

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Told him the load was a killer ... buuut if he could show me how much better I'ld do ... (gave him my Fidelity fund names)

To me, FIDO are the biggest hypocrites out there. They have a huge no-load arm, and then they try to sweet-talk advisors like me into using their loaded Fidelity Advisor funds. However, they give us no support and act like they're doing us a favor for using them.........

At least Vanguard has ONE business model..........

09-12-2007, 09:06 PM	#1
drb111 Confused about dryer sheets Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7	American Funds (without 5.75% sales load) vs. Vanguard? If you could invest in the American Funds at NAV...would you put your $$ there or in Vanguard Index funds? Thx

09-12-2007, 09:11 PM	#2
FIREdreamer Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,347	I'd probably still go with Vanguard because of their rock bottom expense ratios... __________________ "Fortune favors the brave" - Virgil

09-13-2007, 02:53 AM	#4
chinaco Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,949	VG. No question about it. Consider others if there is not a similar investment via VG or low-cost ETF. Ask yourself the opposite question Why would I buy fund x from company y instead of a similar fund at VG? __________________ Disclaimer: I make no warranty or guarantee about the accuracy or completeness of this information. I am not a financial planner, my comments only represent my opinion.

09-13-2007, 10:32 PM	#6
Spanky Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,784	No.

09-14-2007, 07:45 AM	#7
tryan Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,461	Where can one buy into American Funds wo the load? A neighbor is an Edward Jones rep ... came and pitched me (suit n'all) to switch my 401k over to American. Told him the load was a killer ... buuut if he could show me how much better I'ld do ... (gave him my Fidelity fund names). He never came back. __________________ FIRE'd since 2005

09-12-2007, 09:36 PM	#3
LOL! Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,298	Vanguard without a doubt. I think any American fund that has done better than its benchmark is because it cheats. For example, maybe a fund is large cap and beats the S&P500 but only because the fund also holds some foreign large cap.

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