I know this might be painful, but is there anyone here who can take an honest look back and admit that they FIRED too soon?
If so, what warnings did you miss, and what lessons would you care to share?
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Yeah me. Working behind a desk was easier than raising a baby!
I honestly dont think I'd have missed much by retiring...eh...5 years earlier than I did. By then I knew what I "could do" and that I had an understanding of my potential. Thats avoided a lot of "coulda woulda shouldas". I would have gravely regretted waiting 5 more years. In a few months i'll be at my 5 year ER threshold.
Had I waited, I probably would not have had the time to pursue the medium long distance relationship with the woman i'm married to, not gotten married, not had my son, and lost another inch off my hairline. Instead what little I lost appears to have grown back!
ER is better than minoxidil!
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It may not be the ER that got the hormones back up
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It may not be the ER that got the hormones back up
We know something "got up" at least once after ER, so ER can't be all that bad.
Seriously though, CFB made the right decision. He can always go back to work (shudder), but he can never get the first few years of his child's life back...even for all the money in the world.
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Wouldnt have even gotten this far. Momma lived an hours drive away, and if I'd have kept working, I really wouldnt have had the time to do all that driving. Would have been a non-starter.
Another benefit to ER thats gone previously undiscussed. The ability to increase the radar range on dating...
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Don't think many would own up to it if they did. That said, I read or heard a cliche something to the effect of; I'd rather be 80 and broke, than 60, and dying with a bucket full of money.
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IIRC, there was a guy who posted as "duggg" who retired a few years ago with a low six figure portfolio. He was a youngish guy who was living a pretty bare bones lifestyle in an older RV. I often wonder if he made it.
OldAgePensioner retired, joined the board, and decided he wanted to work for a while more. Though judging from his most recent posts after his illness, it looks like he has retired again. His posts while he went through the process of deciding what to do were enlightening.
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I'm at the point now that I'd be half-tempted to just say up-chuck on it all and retire. but my portfolio's only around the $350K mark, and I figure I'd need $2000-2500 per month to live, so maybe I'd better not pull the trigger just yet. I did figure that if my net return (if that's the right name for it, taking the ROR on your investments and subtracting out inflation) averages around 8.5%, I could pull it off. That's a big "If" though!
He's not on the forum (can't get him interested in joining us for some reason) but I've posted before about a friend I grew up with who worked for an oil company in the middle east. He amassed a very nice nest egg, retired in late 1999 at the age of 51. He relied on the services of a finacial adviser to manage his portfolio and told me shortly after retiring "my financial guy says I'm set for life".
Heavily invested in tech stocks, he suffered a 60% loss in 2000 and went back to work less than a year after retiring. After 5 years working in the US, he returned to work in the middle east in January, hoping a couple more years of savings will finally get him back to where he was when he first retired.
Two critical mistakes:
- Retired into a major market downturn
- Relied much too heavily on others to manage his money
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Originally Posted by brewer12345
I'd change the first one to "retired with a way too highly concentrated portfolio".
My thoughts exactly...poorly diversified. I was well invested from 2000-2003 and except for that one screwup with the QQQ's when the market went into its slide, did pretty well with balanced funds and reits.
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Originally Posted by TromboneAl
Also, no one will really know if it was too early, money-wise, until he/she is 80 or so.
Well, only your executor can say if you succeeded- but failure is a diffrent thing. It might be a lot easier to figure out if you were getting too close to the line for comfort anywhere along the way. That IMO, is failure.
Ha
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