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Old 01-11-2007, 10:53 PM   #61
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Re: basement or not

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toejam,

Do you live an area with city water? If so, a solution I have found is having a water-powered back-up pump. As long as there's pressure in the city water lines, the back-up pump will operate.

There are a couple of manufacturers of these. Here's a link to one:
http://www.do-it-yourself-pumps.com/homeguard.htm

I had mine installed about 8 years ago -- cost about $700 total (which I consider cheap insurance against another sump pump failure or prolonged electrical outage.)

It gives me a lot of peace of mind, especially when I am away from home during lengthy stormy/rainy periods.

HTH,

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Hello Omni550:

Thank you very much for the above information. I am going to check it out first thing tomorrow. Sounds like a great idea if I can get one installed. I would not mind at all paying $800 to $1,000 (or more) for the peace of mind such a sump pump would provide! Thanks again for your input regarding my situation!

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Old 01-12-2007, 10:51 AM   #62
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Now that I live in California, I actually appreciate the discipline of not having a basement. It forces you to throw stuff out. If you have a basement you always just throw something in the basement if there's any chance you'll need it, and then end up spending a lot of time searching through the basement for random items that you're not sure if you have.
When you move to a one room efficiency, you'll appreciate the discipline even more! When you live in more than one small room, you always just throw something into all that unnecessary free space if there's any chance you'll need it, and then end up spending a lot of time seaching for random items that you're not sure if you have!
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Old 01-12-2007, 12:28 PM   #63
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And if you're in the market for a manufactured home, be sure you get the optional roll bars.
I'm still astounded at how the tornado's are drawn to large clusters of mobile homes.
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I'm still astounded at how the tornado's are drawn to large clusters of mobile homes.
One of those mysteries of nature that man will likely never solve. I put it in the same category as where does your lap go when you stand up?

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I'm still astounded at how the tornado's are drawn to large clusters of mobile homes.
So true, El Guapo!Thanks, ReWahoo, for your comments on manufactured homes in tornado alley.... I agree, and I plan to buy a small, sturdy conventional home when I retire to SW Missouri.

HaHa, a storm shelter would sure be a "plus", though it appears that more houses might have basements than storm shelters (if the online ads are any indication). Maybe I can have one installed.
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Old 01-13-2007, 11:49 AM   #66
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Another option for a storm shelter is an above-ground hardened room. You can incorporate it easily into the design of a new home, or add it as you would a room addition (some are designed as walk-in closets attached to a bedroom). Typically these are constructed of insulated concrete forms (ICFs), whiche are just large hollow foam blocks that you fill with concrete. Pour a thin re-inforced concrete top slab on top and you've got a place that can withstand a tornado/hurricane, but without some of the downside of a buried room (dampness, potential flooding, etc.).

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Re: basement or not

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toejam,

Do you live an area with city water? If so, a solution I have found is having a water-powered back-up pump. As long as there's pressure in the city water lines, the back-up pump will operate.

There are a couple of manufacturers of these. Here's a link to one:
http://www.do-it-yourself-pumps.com/homeguard.htm

I had mine installed about 8 years ago -- cost about $700 total (which I consider cheap insurance against another sump pump failure or prolonged electrical outage.)

It gives me a lot of peace of mind, especially when I am away from home during lengthy stormy/rainy periods.

HTH,

omni
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thanks for the link.....just wondering if you have ever used or tested the water-powered backup pump? I am familiar with these and have heard mixed reports on performance, but that was some years ago. The gal/min and gal used/gal pumped figures sound reasonable for the system in your link.
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thanks for the link.....just wondering if you have ever used or tested the water-powered backup pump?
I had one installed in my basement eight years ago. (This is after the switch in my original sump pump (of unknown age) failed.) Rather than replace the entire pump, I replaced the switch and had a water-powered back-up pump installed in the sump pit.

Since then, I've had no problems. The original sump pump is still in operation. I test the water-powered back-up pump whenever I'm in the basement and it occurs to me to test it (which is infrequently). This involves lifting the float arm and inch or so (to simulate the primary sump pump failing and the sump pit water level rising). Each time I've done this, the back-up pump has performed flawlessly and instantly to start pumping out the water in the sump pit.

I am confident in the water-powered pump as my "back up" insurance. Far better than a battery-powered alarm (that I would have to be home to hear and one that would need ongoing battery replacement) or a battery-powered back up pump (Again, it would need ongoing battery charging/maintenance).

I'm delighted with my current set-up and rarely give it a moment's thought.

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Our basement on our 100+ year old building is made of sandstone. No leaks or running water but always damp. Hate it. Can't store anything there that you care about. It is just one oversized laundry room and mechanical room.
I have found that just getting some of the air ducts opened up into our basement has vastly improved the humidity problem. An air return and an air duct on opposite ends are needed for good circulation.

I am conservative with using the air conditioner, but when I do it is often more for the humidity then the heat. The AC really pulls the humidity out.

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