Join Early Retirement Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 09-23-2016, 01:42 PM   #101
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
JoeWras's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,331
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfnut View Post
Based on the above, I'd be more concerned about the real quiet guy.
Yeah, I know what you mean. He swore that he had no clue as to why the boss gave him an f.u. But I think he knows. Still, very strange. Two quiet guys mix it up last day.

That was enough for me to look for another job. I eventually left and moved to Megacorp2, so I never found out what happened to quiet guy, except that I've never seen him in the news.

So, back to the OP. Do you want to become the "quiet guy" people talk about 20 years later?
__________________

__________________
JoeWras is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 09-23-2016, 03:08 PM   #102
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 5,193
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunningBum View Post
I had kind of an opposite small world story. I had a boss I hated at megacorp. I survived to finish a couple big projects and went on to work a different project under another manager, so he didn't force me out or anything. Eventually I left for a smaller company. A couple years later my manager showing me his resume, recognizing a similar background. Needless to say, he did not get an interview.
I actually think that is a pretty similar small world story, maybe just from a different viewpoint. The lesson I learned from my experience was not to burn any bridges needlessly. It made me realize the next time I was looking for a job some random intern from my past could be influencing the decision on whether I got hired for some position or not. Or maybe somebody had already and I just didn't know it, like the applicants whose resumes I chose not to distribute.
__________________

__________________
Even clouds seem bright and breezy, 'Cause the livin' is free and easy, See the rat race in a new way, Like you're wakin' up to a new day (Dr. Tarr and Professor Fether lyrics, Alan Parsons Project, based on an EA Poe story)
daylatedollarshort is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2016, 03:52 PM   #103
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 281
There is zero chance the company you are leaving will care.

Options (either identifying yourself, or anonymously):
1. Walk out quietly and elegantly
2. Tell management what you think of them
3. Use your collective knowledge to turn them into whatever oversight group exists inside and outside your company
4. Same as 3., above, but provide it to the local newspaper - unless it is a national company with government interests, then provide it to the government oversight mechanism
5. If there has been clear wrongdoing or serious ethics issues, provide the information to appropriate control boards
6. Get even on a personal level by spending an hour a day researching how to childishly get even
7. Go to work for a competing company and make them really pay (remember NDAs and illegal behavior issues)

Unless there is wrongdoing, just walk out quietly and elegantly.
__________________
stephenson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2016, 04:22 PM   #104
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,366
Nobody cares about you in the workplace. But that's why we're of a similar mindset on this forum. The difference is that we made our own way and found a way to the next chapter.
After 36 years I had my opportunity for an exit interview on my last day. Took the high road and let them figure it out. I was fortunate enough to do it over the phone from my home office. At 10 AM I kicked back with my second Miller Lite and made the call. It was just a cordial discussion with HR. Over the past few years I had made my thoughts well known, why end on a downer. After all being FI has it's perks.
__________________
Retired in 2016. Living off dividends / interest and a mini pension. Freedom.
foxfirev5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2016, 05:18 PM   #105
Full time employment: Posting here.
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: philly
Posts: 819
I've never understood hte whole need to "go out in a blaze of glory"
Op, let me ask and I apologize I have not read all the replies, do you think if you are brutally honest that will change anything?

I too was fed up with my megacorp by the time I left. It had long since sucked the joy out of working there but honestly what would me "going" off accomplish?

Truthfully I was so darn happy the last couple of months working because I knew I really didn't have to be there if I didn't want to that I was so uber nice it was sickening.

Lastly, letting people "have it" rarely paints the company as the bad guys, usually all it does is leave them with the memory of you being a jerk.
__________________
My darling girl, when are you going to realize that being "normal" is not necessarily a virtue? it sometimes rather denotes a lack of courage~Aunt Francis
bclover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2016, 05:46 PM   #106
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
braumeister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Northern Kentucky
Posts: 8,267
Quote:
Originally Posted by bclover View Post
I was so darn happy the last couple of months working because I knew I really didn't have to be there if I didn't want to that I was so uber nice it was sickening.
Not an uncommon situation.
The last couple of months of my employment were similarly relaxed and stress-free. The company had been bought by a megacorp and the handwriting was clearly on the wall that a huge layoff was coming.

As one of the more highly paid members of my department, I assumed (and hoped) that I would participate in the layoff with a reasonable severance package.

It came to pass just as expected, and I was deliriously happy on layoff day.
__________________
braumeister is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2016, 09:00 PM   #107
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 111
While I completely agree with Gumby's post, unfortunately I fail there. OP stated bullying and abusing employees. Two sayings come to mind: Bullies don't stop until someone stands up to them and Evil prevails when good men, women do nothing. Maybe if more stood up respectfully as possible, the work place and life might get better for all?
__________________
Hyper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2016, 10:03 PM   #108
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
harley's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Following the nice weather
Posts: 6,245
When I was working in network security we hired a woman onto the team. It quickly became apparent that she wasn't properly quiet and subservient to our bosses, and she made a lot of noise about the difference between our security processes (which were quite good) and the actual implementation of the security (which was driven by favoritism and the good ole boy network). She was fired not long after on a seriously trumped up reason, and was immediately escorted off the premises. So about 8 hours later (midnight) I got a call because she had signed onto our network and sent an email to everybody from manager level up to CEO saying how if our team had been doing their jobs she wouldn't be able to do this, which was true. Her access should have been disabled before she was even told she was fired. They wanted me to un-email all those messages so they (management) wouldn't look bad. But we couldn't undo it. I'm not sure I would have even if I could. It caused a big brouhaha although it eventually died down and nothing really changed (this was a megacorp after all). But I always admired her exit. It wasn't un-classy like going on a rant, but it was still a big "FU, I was right". It still makes me smile.
__________________
"Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement." - Will Rogers
DW and I - FIREd at 50 (7/06), living off assets
harley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2016, 10:49 PM   #109
Dryer sheet aficionado
FIREchief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by BreathFree View Post
From my experience, not only will it not make a difference, but they will be recounting your exit for weeks - laughing at you. If you leave angry they will feel you were weak and could not handle the changes.

Make your departure about you, not about them. I plan to leave with a simple, "Thank you for providing an opportunity that contributed to my financial independence. I no longer need to work for a living.
this^^^! I just started reading this thread and it took three pages before finding a post that echoed my thoughts. I've experienced several levels of megacorp, and BreathFree nailed it with the "laughing at you" comment. Any employee who tried to "set the boss straight" quickly became nothing more than a source of entertainment. Usually, they weren't very good at it and wound up walking away with more baggage then they came in with. Sorry, but that's just the way of megacorp.
__________________
FIREchief is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2016, 12:41 AM   #110
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
DrRoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,621
Time to leave on your own terms. I think it would be pointless to talk to your manager. Maybe to her manager or someone higher. That would have more effect on her anyway.
__________________
"The mountains are calling, and I must go." John Muir
DrRoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2016, 01:00 AM   #111
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 360
After reading the comments, how about this idea:

Write a letter to boss's superiors upon leaving. Only mention who has left and that you know your writing might come off as disgruntled employee. Also mention that you mean no harm to the company, in fact you care that the company prospers.

Have them keep the letter and that after a few months, if they'd like to talk to you, you're willing to let them contact you.
__________________
Elbata is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2016, 09:51 AM   #112
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 337
My wife is still working as mid level manager in mid size corporation. Her advise was: if your retiring decision is made, you should let all your grievances to be known to upper management and / or exit interview. If you would not do it, it will eats you later that you could but did not do it.
__________________
VFK57 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2016, 10:20 AM   #113
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
travelover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,731
I agree that it is best for all to just leave and keep your mouth shut and get on with your life.

The only other option that might be worthwhile is to get fired deliberately and either get severance pay or unemployment. At least then you'd have something tangible for your efforts. This assumes, of course, you don't plan on working again, at least in the same field.
__________________
Yes, I have achieved work / life balance.
travelover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2016, 11:50 AM   #114
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Miami
Posts: 138
As a manager of hundreds of people over the years it is my observation that the people making the most noise when they left were the poorest performing employees. I was so relieved when you left.
__________________
FIRE July 2015
Blueskies123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2016, 12:07 PM   #115
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern IL
Posts: 18,002
Quote:
Originally Posted by VFK57 View Post
My wife is still working as mid level manager in mid size corporation. Her advise was: if your retiring decision is made, you should let all your grievances to be known to upper management and / or exit interview. If you would not do it, it will eats you later that you could but did not do it.
For me, 5 minutes after I was off the property, those kind of issues were the furthest thing from my mind. I had a new life to look forward to, and I got busy with that.

I only think about the past issues introspectively. They don't bother me. Water under the bridge.

-ERD50
__________________
ERD50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2016, 12:22 PM   #116
Full time employment: Posting here.
Just_Steve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Dutchess County
Posts: 820
When I was w*rking i watch the movie "The Purge" and had a bunch of people I would have put on the list. The other night I was watching the second Purge movie and couldn't even think of one single soul I would want to purge.
As Gumby posted "forgive those who trespass against us" lightens the mental load more than you can imagine.
__________________
Just_Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2016, 03:08 PM   #117
Full time employment: Posting here.
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 701
ERD50 has it right.
It's a job, not a marriage. It's a business relationship, period. No reason to get all emotional about it.

One of my co-workers explained this to me in my early years at the company. Then he gave me his motto in full detail, "I f*king love Motorola. And Motorola loves f*king me." (Notice none of that "megacorp" BS, I name names.)


Everybody else has it right, too -- nobody in the company, not even HR in an "exit interview" cares what some quitter has to say. You might as well vent at the traffic light because it turned red when you wanted it to stay green. It's non-productive and mentally unhealthy.

Don't bother to complain to HR or higher management, either. In all cases, they will side with management, not you. In five minutes, you will be just another random guy on the street who doesn't work there.


Actually, when I told my boss I was quitting, he said, "I wish I could afford to quit, too. I'm sick of all the political B.S."
__________________
rayvt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2016, 07:08 PM   #118
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 5,360
Quote:
Originally Posted by rayvt View Post
ERD50 has it right.
It's a job, not a marriage. It's a business relationship, period. No reason to get all emotional about it.

One of my co-workers explained this to me in my early years at the company. Then he gave me his motto in full detail, "I f*king love Motorola. And Motorola loves f*king me." (Notice none of that "megacorp" BS, I name names.)


Everybody else has it right, too -- nobody in the company, not even HR in an "exit interview" cares what some quitter has to say. You might as well vent at the traffic light because it turned red when you wanted it to stay green. It's non-productive and mentally unhealthy.

Don't bother to complain to HR or higher management, either. In all cases, they will side with management, not you. In five minutes, you will be just another random guy on the street who doesn't work there.


Actually, when I told my boss I was quitting, he said, "I wish I could afford to quit, too. I'm sick of all the political B.S."
+1000

I was in a 15k+ Megacorp company. I played out what if I flamed them on the way out on the exit interview.

My biggest issue was my immediate mangler wouldn't respect my privacy on FMLA issues. I'd gone to HR and they didn't have, "a slide in the deck the consultant put together for that issue", so how could they respond? Other than you two work it out😆.

My VP was afraid of the CIO and it was apparent he'd flame me.

So what? I said nice crapola on the exit. It's what they wanted.

I'm FREE!
__________________
MRG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2016, 07:17 PM   #119
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,562
Just say goodbye and thanks for the memories.

Focus on the good years of steady employment.

Besides, even if you do spout off you will most likely not be telling them anything that they do not already know. Lots of us worked in and ended our carreers in similar environments.
__________________
brett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2016, 09:17 PM   #120
Dryer sheet aficionado
FIREchief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by rayvt View Post
One of my co-workers explained this to me in my early years at the company. Then he gave me his motto in full detail, "I f*king love Motorola. And Motorola loves f*king me." (Notice none of that "megacorp" BS, I name names.)
Good for you! That said, I think I missed your point on the motto...
__________________

__________________
FIREchief is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
burning bridges, honesty, omy


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ramifications of Revealing Wealth AnIntentionalRoad FIRE and Money 111 09-23-2014 08:50 AM
Do you click with your boss/Best Boss that you have had? maddythebeagle Young Dreamers 29 09-02-2007 11:52 AM
Why walk to work when you can walk AT work? Nords Health and Early Retirement 5 05-16-2007 10:05 PM
Interview with an honest boss dory36 Other topics 2 10-24-2005 11:15 AM
The Honest Boss - Must be played with sound Cut-Throat Other topics 0 10-08-2004 07:15 AM

 

 
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:40 AM.
 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.