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09-09-2018, 05:43 PM
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#161
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,046
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Originally Posted by njhowie
I've mentioned this and similar bonus offers.
I did the Discover Savings Account offer last year. It is one of the best, because there are no fees, there is no early account closure restriction/fees, and you get your bonus in just a few weeks after funding the account. When I did it, I opened the account, had the bonus less than a month later, transferred all the money out immediately thereafter.
I've committed a small chunk of my savings just for churning these offers. It is worth the small effort involved - making significantly higher returns than on the high yield savings accounts.
The one I've done for the best return on "investment" - HSBC checking account - put $1500 in, they give you $200 bonus after 90 days. Can close the account 6 months after opening with no early closure fee.
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Me too. I got my $200 bonus last month but haven't pulled the money out yet because 1.8% in a savings is hard to beat. However, how do you close out these accounts once you withdraw? do you have to call in or the 0 balance automatically triggers the closure after 30 or 60 days?
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09-09-2018, 06:38 PM
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#162
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,925
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Originally Posted by dvalley
Me too. I got my $200 bonus last month but haven't pulled the money out yet because 1.8% in a savings is hard to beat. However, how do you close out these accounts once you withdraw? do you have to call in or the 0 balance automatically triggers the closure after 30 or 60 days?
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With Discover, just transfer all the money out back to your primary checking account. Because it's accumulating interest it may take you an extra cycle to get all the money out as interest will post at the end of the month and then you should transfer the interest the day it posts so no more interest accumulates. You can use the account closure form to close it when the balance settles to $0.
https://bank.discover.com/bankac/cus...horization.pdf
1.8% is a good rate at this time. However, that's 1.8% for a full year - so you'll collect $270 on your $15k balance over 12 months. Do this - take $10k of it, and move it over to Capital One and you'll get $200 in 60 days...more than it would make in the Discover account for a full year. On top of that, the Capital One interest rate is 1.85%.
https://www.capitalone.com/offer200/
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09-10-2018, 09:49 AM
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#163
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,046
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Quote:
Originally Posted by njhowie
With Discover, just transfer all the money out back to your primary checking account. Because it's accumulating interest it may take you an extra cycle to get all the money out as interest will post at the end of the month and then you should transfer the interest the day it posts so no more interest accumulates. You can use the account closure form to close it when the balance settles to $0.
https://bank.discover.com/bankac/cus...horization.pdf
1.8% is a good rate at this time. However, that's 1.8% for a full year - so you'll collect $270 on your $15k balance over 12 months. Do this - take $10k of it, and move it over to Capital One and you'll get $200 in 60 days...more than it would make in the Discover account for a full year. On top of that, the Capital One interest rate is 1.85%.
https://www.capitalone.com/offer200/
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Ah thanks for the tips! Unfortunately I already have a CapitalOne account from before...and almost all of the new offers require you don't have an active account with them. I need to start closing all the zero or near zero bank accounts out there that I previously used for cash back offers
Edit: I just looked into my CapOne account and turns out that I had a sharebuilder investment account that got scooped up by Capital One. Now looks like they're transferring it to ETrade soon according to the banner on top.
So may be I can open the account and see what happens.
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09-10-2018, 04:54 PM
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#164
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,925
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Originally Posted by dvalley
Ah thanks for the tips! Unfortunately I already have a CapitalOne account from before...and almost all of the new offers require you don't have an active account with them. I need to start closing all the zero or near zero bank accounts out there that I previously used for cash back offers
Edit: I just looked into my CapOne account and turns out that I had a sharebuilder investment account that got scooped up by Capital One. Now looks like they're transferring it to ETrade soon according to the banner on top.
So may be I can open the account and see what happens.
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Is the current account in your name? Do you have other family members in your household which you can register the new account for (wife/kids)?
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09-11-2018, 06:50 PM
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#165
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Rio Grande Valley
Posts: 37,931
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I've been keeping an eye on the 2year CDs offered via Fidelity, as the 2 year seems to be a sweet spot*. Finally today the Morgan Stanley offers a 2.85% 2 year CD - up from the 2.8% CD offered by several banks for quite a while now.
The 2 year Treasury has been lagging, but catching up recently. It finally made it to 2.76% today.
*Not counting the 3.25% 15 month CD special offered by NASA FCU this month.
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09-11-2018, 10:06 PM
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#166
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: The Bay Area
Posts: 2,736
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Originally Posted by audreyh1
I've been keeping an eye on the 2year CDs offered via Fidelity, as the 2 year seems to be a sweet spot*. Finally today the Morgan Stanley offers a 2.85% 2 year CD - up from the 2.8% CD offered by several banks for quite a while now.
The 2 year Treasury has been lagging, but catching up recently. It finally made it to 2.76% today.
*Not counting the 3.25% 15 month CD special offered by NASA FCU this month.
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Do you typically buy new CDs or on the secondary market? Do you have a preference?
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09-12-2018, 06:37 AM
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Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2006
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I'm all set up with my 3.25% CD at NASA! Applied Saturday, money transferred into CD this morning.
It was a much smoother process than I anticipated.
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09-12-2018, 07:34 AM
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#168
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 7,515
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Quote:
Originally Posted by simple girl
I'm all set up with my 3.25% CD at NASA! Applied Saturday, money transferred into CD this morning.
It was a much smoother process than I anticipated.
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Simple girl, did you do ACH transfer?
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09-12-2018, 07:54 AM
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#169
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Rio Grande Valley
Posts: 37,931
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Huston55
Do you typically buy new CDs or on the secondary market? Do you have a preference?
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Only new for me so far.
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09-12-2018, 10:45 AM
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#170
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: W Wash
Posts: 1,643
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Originally Posted by audreyh1
Only new for me so far.
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Curious how you sort buying Treasuries at no cost vs buying OI CD's?
Personally not seeing much yield advantage in CDs over Treasuries and the cost for liquidity if necessary looks cheaper than CD penalties and/or sales commissions.
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09-12-2018, 10:55 AM
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#171
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Rio Grande Valley
Posts: 37,931
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nwsteve
Curious how you sort buying Treasuries at no cost vs buying OI CD's?
Personally not seeing much yield advantage in CDs over Treasuries and the cost for liquidity if necessary looks cheaper than CD penalties and/or sales commissions.
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I’ve been buying short-term treasuries lately. But also picked up the Andrews FCU 2.75% 9 month CD. Treasuries recently have been beating CDs below 12 months, but not at and above.
Treasury costs for selling early in a rising interest rate environment is the loss on the value as well as the commission. It’s not just the commission.
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09-12-2018, 11:18 AM
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#172
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Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,006
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Originally Posted by Montecfo
Simple girl, did you do ACH transfer?
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I used a credit card to open the savings account - easier than ACH IMO. I then wired the big $ from our our other
money market account to our new NASA savings account. That took 2 days by the time our money market account confirmed all of my data and then completed the wire (I'm not complaining - I really like their security features).
After the $$$ was in my NASA savings account I simply called and they transferred it into the CD (which I had set up upon opening the account initially).
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09-12-2018, 11:23 AM
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#173
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Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 10,622
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Quote:
Originally Posted by njhowie
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Originally Posted by sengsational
I just opened a DiscoverBank account. No thaw required. No shenanigans. Just filled-out a form online and ACH'd the money from my CU. Only 1.8% APR, but getting $200 in cash as a new account bonus. When I pull from tax deferred accounts in December to fund all of 2019, I might research these CD opportunities, but at this point in the year, my after tax cash is low, and my tax advantaged accounts don't hold cash in very big amounts.
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I've mentioned this and similar bonus offers.
I did the Discover Savings Account offer last year. It is one of the best, because there are no fees, there is no early account closure restriction/fees, and you get your bonus in just a few weeks after funding the account. When I did it, I opened the account, had the bonus less than a month later, transferred all the money out immediately thereafter.
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I've got my $200 already! Given the 1.8% APR, the effective APR with the bonus stays above 3.25% for nearly 7 months!
Quote:
Originally Posted by njhowie
The one I've done for the best return on "investment" - HSBC checking account - put $1500 in, they give you $200 bonus after 90 days. Can close the account 6 months after opening with no early closure fee.
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I might need to try that next. Usually I don't mess around with stuff like this, but I could come to like it
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09-12-2018, 02:44 PM
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#174
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Upstate
Posts: 2,944
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nwsteve
Curious how you sort buying Treasuries at no cost vs buying OI CD's?
Personally not seeing much yield advantage in CDs over Treasuries and the cost for liquidity if necessary looks cheaper than CD penalties and/or sales commissions.
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Huh? NASA CU 15-month CD is 3.25%. Even the 30 year Treasury is less than that (@3.07%). The 12 month treasury yield is 2.49%, the 2 year is 2.66%.
Even with state tax free, that is a big yield advantage.
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09-12-2018, 03:04 PM
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#175
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Rio Grande Valley
Posts: 37,931
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Originally Posted by copyright1997reloaded
Huh? NASA CU 15-month CD is 3.25%. Even the 30 year Treasury is less than that (@3.07%). The 12 month treasury yield is 2.49%, the 2 year is 2.66%.
Even with state tax free, that is a big yield advantage.
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This is true. Even 5 yr CDs currently at 3.35% are beating any treasuries.
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09-12-2018, 03:22 PM
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#176
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: W Wash
Posts: 1,643
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Quote:
Originally Posted by audreyh1
Treasury costs for selling early in a rising interest rate environment is the loss on the value as well as the commission. It’s not just the commission.
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True! But I don't see how that is different in loss of value (at last on brokered CD) that you sell before maturity. While probably small, suspect value loss would be less on Treasury.
On direct CD's 6 mon loss of interest seems to be pretty common for <2 yr
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09-12-2018, 03:38 PM
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#177
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Rio Grande Valley
Posts: 37,931
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nwsteve
True! But I don't see how that is different in loss of value (at last on brokered CD) that you sell before maturity. While probably small, suspect value loss would be less on Treasury.
On direct CD's 6 mon loss of interest seems to be pretty common for <2 yr
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Some direct CDs are only 60 days interest penalty on early withdrawal - even up to 2 years (Ally). 12 month or less CDs tend to have much lower than 180 days interest penalty. 90 days or less is common.
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09-12-2018, 06:19 PM
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#178
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Location: Rio Grande Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by audreyh1
I've been keeping an eye on the 2year CDs offered via Fidelity, as the 2 year seems to be a sweet spot*. Finally today the Morgan Stanley offers a 2.85% 2 year CD - up from the 2.8% CD offered by several banks for quite a while now.
The 2 year Treasury has been lagging, but catching up recently. It finally made it to 2.76% today.
*Not counting the 3.25% 15 month CD special offered by NASA FCU this month.
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Wells Fargo did a one-up on Morgan Stanley today offering 2.9% for a 2 year CD.
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09-12-2018, 06:29 PM
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#179
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,405
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Quote:
Originally Posted by audreyh1
Wells Fargo did a one-up on Morgan Stanley today offering 2.9% for a 2 year CD.
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Wells Fargo has been consistently offering the highest rates in several durations. It's not a lot of money in total if you add up the offerings, but it's a little unnerving to me as a stockholder.
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09-12-2018, 07:23 PM
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#180
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Kamuela
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I don't see that rate in my area. What area are you in, and what division of Wells Fargo?
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