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03-31-2014, 09:34 AM
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Cadillac vs Ford
My take away from the Caddy ad is that me and another 30 to 40 guys will have to work overtime for free, and get little vacation, so this one jerk can have his toys that he seems to value more than his time. And get his arrogant ego massaged.
What!?!?!? The guy drives a hybrid Caddy?!?! Oh, Dear!
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03-31-2014, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by John Galt III
Just as long as it's not that smug dude in the blue jeans and baseball cap who looks like he never worked a day in his life, advertising pickup trucks................
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+1 - those always fit the annoying category for me. What the heck does baseball-cap-dude have to do with why I should buy this car?
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03-31-2014, 09:38 AM
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+1 - those always fit the annoying category for me. What the heck does baseball-cap-dude have to do with why I should buy this car?
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Me too!! Now the hot gal in the short skirt and tight low-cut top must surely have some reasons for me to buy a car. :-)
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03-31-2014, 09:45 AM
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Me too!! Now the hot gal in the short skirt and tight low-cut top must surely have some reasons for me to buy a car. :-)
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Makes perfect sense to me!
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03-31-2014, 09:55 AM
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Me too!! Now the hot gal in the short skirt and tight low-cut top must surely have some reasons for me to buy a car. :-)
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Loved those hot rod pictures.
Now a gas sucking, rubber burning, stoplight to stoplight 32 Ford retro rod - that would make Jay Leno jealous - kept in the the garage and only driven on Sundays in good weather.
 
heh heh heh - walk, bike and drive a used Honda Fit. But! If I go back to work in August - save my pennies(Beach Boy pun) I can recapture my youth - or not. 
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03-31-2014, 10:20 AM
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I've never seen either of these ads on TV.
The Cadillac guy comes across as an arrogant jerk. The Ford ad is an amusing parody, but I don't think either ad will be effective at selling anything. Maybe I'm wrong about the ad effectiveness, however, since a certain brand of imported car I can think of seems to attract arrogant jerks.
I think a more effective Ford parody would have involved an emphasis on the quality/price/value of Ford vehicles versus Cadillac.
As for the French at the end of the Cadillac ad, I took that to be a petty insult directed toward the French people and their stereotypical month-long August vacations (which are not quite as common today). I would presume that the ad-makers think that arrogant jerks hate the French, which could very well be true. The use of the identical French phrase at the end of the Ford commercial was simply part of the parody.
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03-31-2014, 10:32 AM
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I've never seen either of these ads on TV.
I think a more effective Ford parody would have involved an emphasis on the quality/price/value of Ford vehicles versus Cadillac.
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Ford tries that, to a degree, although it's Lincoln versus Lexus. IMO, the ads come off as a bit desperate. Luxury cars are supposed to sell on image and status, not on value. That's why Chrysler no longer sells Imperials.
Although, with the way Lincoln is going, who knows? They seem like they're going downscale to me. One of my friends came up with a slogan for them..."Lincoln: What a Mercury SHOULD Be!" (meaning, that Mercurys had become little more than tarted up Fords, where they should have been more like the contemporary Lincolns, while any Lincoln-badged car should have been much more upscale)
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03-31-2014, 10:39 AM
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I hadn't seen these before. I thought the Ford parody was hilarious. I did think the guy in the Cadillac commercial was acting like a jerk and it didn't make me want to buy that car.
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03-31-2014, 10:49 AM
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I hadn't seen these before. I thought the Ford parody was hilarious. I did think the guy in the Cadillac commercial was acting like a jerk and it didn't make me want to buy that car.
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03-31-2014, 11:16 AM
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Just as long as it's not that smug dude in the blue jeans and baseball cap who looks like he never worked a day in his life, advertising pickup trucks................
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Those guys are the most profitable pickup buyers. 
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03-31-2014, 11:52 AM
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I note for purposes of irony (not for political debate) that while Ford is playing this "everyman" ad, they just gave their CEO an 11% raise to just over $23 million a year....
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03-31-2014, 12:28 PM
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03-31-2014, 12:50 PM
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The guy in the caddy ad has played as about every sleazy character you can think of. Didn't care for the ad or him as far as that goes.
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You've got to admire the acting. It is acting, y'know 
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04-01-2014, 10:23 AM
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He's a good actor - liked him in Space Above and Beyond. Also like the Allstate guy - his series didn't last that long either. And my personal experiences with Ford pickups sucked.
None of which would invalidate a good technical review of said products - a cute/grabber TV ad no - it would invalidate my ER forum credentials and strip INTJ rank and nobody would sell me any generic Dollar General dryer sheets.
BUT some ads are good entertainment.
heh heh heh - and then there's the Jaguar guy - I still have love/hate memories of my 1967 2+2 E coupe. Red of course.  
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04-01-2014, 12:28 PM
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... And my personal experiences with Ford pickups sucked...
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Gee, and I was just hoping I could scrape enough bucks together to trade in the '92 F250 heavy duty work truck on a much newer version!
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04-01-2014, 01:10 PM
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Gee, and I was just hoping I could scrape enough bucks together to trade in the '92 F250 heavy duty work truck on a much newer version!
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I am on my 4th ford pickup. Except for the 04 (which had a few engine issues) I have had very good luck and have been very happy.
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04-01-2014, 05:47 PM
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Hmmmmm........if Ford doesn't think you should buy a Cadillac.......why would anyone buy a Lincoln  ? Oops, just saw sales numbers.......very few do buy Lincoln......wonder why and if Ford is a little jealous of GM's success with Caddy compared to Ford's success with Lincoln.
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04-01-2014, 07:49 PM
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Ford has always been jealous of Cadillac and it's sales leads. It's been years since Lincoln has even had a sniff of Cadillac's exhaust. Why even attempt
to include Cadillac in an ad?
PS: I think the new Cadillac XTS is one of the best looking vehicles on the market.
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04-01-2014, 07:49 PM
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In the past we have had products from both manufacturers. No caddies, but one heck of lemon of a Lincoln.
We would not buy anything from either of them.
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04-01-2014, 08:33 PM
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Well golly gee...
I have a Cadillac AND a Lincoln.
'96 Cadillac SLS
'98 Lincoln Signature Town Car
Have owned them for a total of 24 car-years at a cost of $1300/yr, including cost/depreciation and repairs. IMHO, the only way to measure value. Have you ever checked your cost per year?
Waiting on invitation from CarMax to do a commercial.
Can't imagine why anyone would buy a product that loses 3 to 5 thousand dollars in value as soon as it leaves the dealer's lot, but that's why we have commercials, eh whot?
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