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Old 04-01-2014, 10:20 PM   #41
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I am not convinced by either commercial to purchase a Caddy or Ford EV. Ford is also targeting Honda buyers with commercials depicting reasons to switch from Honda to Ford.
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When I saw the Cadillac commercial on TV for the first time, I actually thought it was a parody, and expected the final scene to show mourners dressed in black around a casket at his funeral. It wasn't until the end that I realized that it was a real commercial for Cadillac. It was so far out I just couldn't see how any company would see this kind of life as a desirable thing. As for the Ford commercial, sure it was a bit cheesy and over the top in the opposite direction, but that was what they were shooting for I am guessing. I have to admit, I was disgusted by the GM commercial. I think Ford did a good job making fun at it.
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I think that both commercials did a good job catering to each brand's demographics, which are obviously quite different.
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When I saw the Cadillac commercial on TV for the first time, I actually thought it was a parody, and expected the final scene to show mourners dressed in black around a casket at his funeral. It wasn't until the end that I realized that it was a real commercial for Cadillac. It was so far out I just couldn't see how any company would see this kind of life as a desirable thing. As for the Ford commercial, sure it was a bit cheesy and over the top in the opposite direction, but that was what they were shooting for I am guessing. I have to admit, I was disgusted by the GM commercial. I think Ford did a good job making fun at it.
I thought it was going to be some kind of parody at first, too. I kept waiting for the punchline.

I was wondering if they were trying to send an anti-ER kind of message. Many people who post here are in their demographics assets or income-wise, and many can surely afford to ER and buy luxury cars, too, but overall wealthy people choosing to buy time freedom instead working more hours or years and making more money has to cut into luxury good makers' profit margins.
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When I saw the Cadillac commercial on TV for the first time, I actually thought it was a parody, and expected the final scene ... .
Now I recall, when I first saw it I was expecting a punch-line. It reminded me of that one a few years ago, where the guy is cutting his well groomed lawn with a shiny new riding mower, in front of a nice looking suburban home, with a couple new cars in the driveway, and he's talking about all the 'stuff' he has, and then at the end, almost tearfully, "And I'm up to my eyeballs debt - heeeeelp!!!".

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When I saw the Cadillac commercial on TV for the first time, I actually thought it was a parody, and expected the final scene to show mourners dressed in black around a casket at his funeral. It wasn't until the end that I realized that it was a real commercial for Cadillac. It was so far out I just couldn't see how any company would see this kind of life as a desirable thing. As for the Ford commercial, sure it was a bit cheesy and over the top in the opposite direction, but that was what they were shooting for I am guessing. I have to admit, I was disgusted by the GM commercial. I think Ford did a good job making fun at it.
I thought the pool was pretty nice.
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When I saw the Cadillac commercial on TV for the first time, I actually thought it was a parody, and expected the final scene to show mourners dressed in black around a casket at his funeral. It wasn't until the end that I realized that it was a real commercial for Cadillac. It was so far out I just couldn't see how any company would see this kind of life as a desirable thing.
I hear you. I had similar reaction and was quite put off by it. For sure, I won't be buying any caddy.

IMO, nothing dents future RE fund like buying an expensive, luxury car. Besides the car's cost, it has higher gas mileage, maintenance cost, and insurance fees. It's like giving up 1 - 3 years of RE for a device that gets you from one place to another. But that's LBYM in me.
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I am truly astounded, people actually watch car commercials, pay attention to them and debate their merits. Whaddaya do allday?

OTOH couple of months ago DW decided she needed a new car. Went off to replace her perfecly functioning, prisitine looking but seven year old Buick with another Buick.

She came home with a Cadilac CTS. Go figure.
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I am truly astounded, people actually watch car commercials, pay attention to them and debate their merits. Whaddaya do allday?

OTOH couple of months ago DW decided she needed a new car. Went off to replace her perfecly functioning, prisitine looking but seven year old Buick with another Buick.

She came home with a Cadilac CTS. Go figure.
Do you think the ad did it?
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Do you think the ad did it?
Having just watched James Randi elaborate on academics, I'd have to say that at this time I have insufficient data to perform proper statistical analysis of the number of commercials in toto that she watched, how many of those were Cadillac v Ford v Lamborghini or Maserati and did she actually pay attention to them, and read all the requisite fine print and comprehend associated 200 mph fast talk af the needed disclosures required by the FTC, or did she succomb to various subliminal meesages embedded in every commercial's messages, for me to draw a potentially invalid conclusion.

In short: I have't a clue.

But she loves SciFI if that matters.
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Old 04-02-2014, 06:04 PM   #52
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I always thought that I would like to have a US luxury vehicle. And it happened. I got a Lincoln as a company vehicle for one year. That cured me. Even more so, during that same year, when I got to test drive a Toyota Avalon and then a Lexus (forget which model). The Lincoln did not even come close...not even with it's air conditioned leather seats! Lemon from day one and I learned that the depreciation in years one and two were massive. I quickly lost all desire for a US label luxury vehicle.

And I was able to relate to those Lincoln adds a year or so ago that essentially said their previous cars were crap but now the 'New Lincoln Company" vehicles were well made!

Did not convince me though.
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I would think that the arrogant jerk portrayed in the Cadillac ad would be much more likely to buy a Cadillac Escalade (luxury gas-guzzling SUV) than an ELR plug-in hybrid, n'est-ce pas?
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Once upon a time. very long ago Lincoln made good looking cars, they were highway version of boats. IMHO nowdays Lincoln is competing with the Pontiac Aztec in looks, elegance and charm department.

I know nothing about any generation of Lincoln's reliability.

So far DW's CTS has been flawless, and all services are included in the priginal purchase price to 100K miles, or I think 5 years. Great for me, one less set of wheels to worry about. I really do like my 95 Jaguar XJ6 which I got for less than 10 cents on the dollar, used of course. Puts a grin on face eavery time I get in it.
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You've got to admire the acting. It is acting, y'know
Yes its acting and I got a kick out of the Cadillac commercial, the attitude 'we got bored on the moon'. Now in real life I don't like attitude, but I see humor in commercials.

A commercial won't get me to buy either vehicle. DW had a new Escape that Ford bought back from us, at full price, a lemon. They technically didn't have to give us full price, but they did.

It was a lemon, the only problem we had was the original dealership. When we went to another Ford dealership, they immediately gave us all the information needed to document the issues.

The dispute process very interesting. I was allowed to sit in the internal discussion, not allowed to say anything more, as I had presented my case. Have to say they were fair.
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IMO, nothing dents future RE fund like buying an expensive, luxury car. Besides the car's cost, it has higher gas mileage, maintenance cost, and insurance fees. It's like giving up 1 - 3 years of RE for a device that gets you from one place to another. But that's LBYM in me.
You missed the point of the commercial. He wasn't in danger of failing to meet his RE goals. He had won the game and was just buying "stuff" because he could afford it.

To him, this was akin to buying a new book vs. waiting for it to show up at the library. You don't need to sweat about expenses that are (relative) pocket-change.
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You missed the point of the commercial. He wasn't in danger of failing to meet his RE goals. He had won the game and was just buying "stuff" because he could afford it.

To him, this was akin to buying a new book vs. waiting for it to show up at the library. You don't need to sweat about expenses that are (relative) pocket-change.
Bingo.
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You missed the point of the commercial. He wasn't in danger of failing to meet his RE goals. He had won the game and was just buying "stuff" because he could afford it.

To him, this was akin to buying a new book vs. waiting for it to show up at the library. You don't need to sweat about expenses that are (relative) pocket-change.

Sorry, I was off topic on my response. I was just making a general statement on RE and not the commercial.
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Just commenting on car ads in general: I think many commercials are going nuts with the high speed and dangerous driving. I think these ads are very bad and portray the wrong image to the younger crowd. I remember when it was a no-no to mention the other manufacturer in a commercial. As someone said, many of the ads I just don't get. Over my head you could say. Guess it's my age. What ever happened to "See the USA in your Chevrolet". I miss those kind of commercials.
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I like the Cadillac commercial. Work hard, play hard.
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