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Old 10-04-2008, 05:56 PM   #61
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Old 10-04-2008, 06:23 PM   #62
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And the people (in California) are as varied as anywhere else you'd care to visit. For better and for worse.
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I was instantly reduced to an unworthy red neck because I have Alabama license plates on my car.
Thanks, folks, for chiming in and helping me to make my point. We're all different, we're all people, and whether we're from the Southern United States (as is my father), or from California, or carry a British passport (as do I), or hail from anywhere else in the world, we're all worthy of respect from strangers until they find that we deserve otherwise.

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Wow, that was quite a painting of the people of Utah and Nevada.
I merely reported what individuals had said to me in the course of my daily business, without name calling. Their words speak for themselves. At the time these things happened I responded politely to them and wished them a good day. This is known as "rising above it."
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:12 PM   #63
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As a former Oregonian who never planned to move to the Golden State, I'm sad to say I've experienced this phenomenon from both sides of the state line.

While rudeness is rarely excusable, and generalizations are usually unfair, I can understand how people in other states love/loathe California. It can be very challenging to folks in small towns when a sudden influx of money and early retirees from another state push housing and land prices up (making it hard for your kids to buy a home where they were raised), or when the area you loved for its "rural" character becomes strip-malled because of the machinations of a developer who cut their chops in LA county. From the CA side, it's easy to have pride and preference for your home state come across as haughtiness. It's hard to make room in your heart for the things that threaten your lifestyle, and its easier to find a scapegoat than seek common ground and a path forward.

ST -- in statistics there's a saying, "the larger the sample, the better the inference." Maybe spending some time with Californians that you don't work with will broaden your view of the state. It worked for me when I spent time in London -- I no longer believe that all Brits are humorless snobs who eat terrible food.


As for the credit crisis, here's one Californian who's holding her breath, wanting our state workers to get paid so they can put food on the table. Isn't that what this comes down to? Why would I wish bounced paychecks and hard times on my neighbors?
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Thanks, folks, for chiming in and helping me to make my point. We're all different, we're all people, and whether we're from the Southern United States (as is my father), or from California, or carry a British passport (as do I), or hail from anywhere else in the world, we're all worthy of respect from strangers until they find that we deserve otherwise.

I agree 100%. Well said.
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As a former Oregonian who never planned to move to the Golden State, I'm sad to say I've experienced this phenomenon from both sides of the state line.

While rudeness is rarely excusable, and generalizations are usually unfair, I can understand how people in other states love/loathe California. It can be very challenging to folks in small towns when a sudden influx of money and early retirees from another state push housing and land prices up (making it hard for your kids to buy a home where they were raised), or when the area you loved for its "rural" character becomes strip-malled because of the machinations of a developer who cut their chops in LA county. From the CA side, it's easy to have pride and preference for your home state come across as haughtiness. It's hard to make room in your heart for the things that threaten your lifestyle, and its easier to find a scapegoat than seek common ground and a path forward.

ST -- in statistics there's a saying, "the larger the sample, the better the inference." Maybe spending some time with Californians that you don't work with will broaden your view of the state. It worked for me when I spent time in London -- I no longer believe that all Brits are humorless snobs who eat terrible food.


As for the credit crisis, here's one Californian who's holding her breath, wanting our state workers to get paid so they can put food on the table. Isn't that what this comes down to? Why would I wish bounced paychecks and hard times on my neighbors?
Well said.
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On a quick run through the data, I note that the states that are relative "takers" are the politically red states, while the "giver" states are blue. Interesting.
Another way to look at it is that "rich" states are givers and "poor" states takers (it just so happens that "rich" states tend to be blue and red states, well, less so)
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Thanks, folks, for chiming in and helping me to make my point. We're all different, we're all people, and whether we're from the Southern United States (as is my father), or from California, or carry a British passport (as do I), or hail from anywhere else in the world, we're all worthy of respect from strangers until they find that we deserve otherwise.



I merely reported what individuals had said to me in the course of my daily business, without name calling. Their words speak for themselves. At the time these things happened I responded politely to them and wished them a good day. This is known as "rising above it."
If your point was to respect others, I would have chosen to leave out the less than flattering anecdotes. Just me though. Time for a bubble bath here in Hawaii.
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