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Old 04-27-2014, 05:02 PM   #41
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+1 for comparisons.

For myself, I track taxable cost basis and calculate taxes for each year in my projections. For a simple net worth calculation I count only 85% of IRA's versus 100% of Roths and taxable.
I would think that funds in Roths are worth a bit more than taxable, since you won't have to pay taxes on earnings.
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Old 04-27-2014, 05:48 PM   #42
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My spreadsheet projections include a mini tax return that computes taxable income and federal and state taxes so my taxes are in my expenses for planning purposes.

However if I was doing a formal net worth calculation I would do a deferred tax liability for my tax-deferred accounts and for unrealized gains and losses on my taxable accounts.
I do a mini tax return projection for the current year and the following year (rolling over each year).

However, in my spreadsheet projection (which covers nearly 50 years), I estimate taxes at 20% of funds withdrawn from our IRAs. This will obviously get refined as time goes on, but seems to be a reasonable estimate today. Our tax rate last year was 12% (state/federal combined). BTW, we do not estimate taking money out of our IRAs for another 20 years.
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I would think that funds in Roths are worth a bit more than taxable, since you won't have to pay taxes on earnings.
OK, you made me look. My projections do subtract (current value - basis value) * default capital gains rate from taxable equities when calculating net worth. Must have been bored some time in the past.

Currently my basis is about 90% of the current value, so it's only a 1.5% hit. And I'm busy spending the taxable accounts, so they won't have long to grow.
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