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Old 10-18-2009, 05:02 PM   #41
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Did any of you find that you started staying up later at night and sleeping later in the day after retirement?
No - I started going to bed earlier, and in general rose early enough most of the time. I definitely get more sleep! I don't get up late.

On being a slug after retiring. Well, the thing is, it's really up to you! Don't be too hard on yourself for being a slug the first 6 months after retiring because you definitely need some time to recover from working if you had a stressful job. After that - well - it's up to you! Just remember - you are making the choices. But whichever choice you make - it's OK.

It seems quite a few people express the concern that without some kind of externally imposed pressures they will somehow not do well. Because they've lived there life that way for so long it can be hard to imagine another way. But think how random those external pressures are. Why not decide what you think is most important and structure your life around your own priorities. Retirement is your opportunity to do just that!

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Old 10-18-2009, 05:06 PM   #42
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I don't buy the story in the OP at all. Nobody will ever convince me that people who don't want to work are healthier being forced to continue (for whatever reason) than they would be if they retired. OTOH, if you want to work or would be too stressed out not working (like if you don't have enough money when you are forced out), then ER might not be so healthy for you. But I'm one of the former, and glad of it.
I'm with you on this one Harley!!!

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No - I started going to bed earlier, and in general rose early enough most of the time. I definitely get more sleep! I don't get up late.

On being a slug after retiring. Well, the thing is, it's really up to you! Don't be too hard on yourself for being a slug the first 6 months after retiring because you definitely need some time to recover from working if you had a stressful job. After that - well - it's up to you! Just remember - you are making the choices. But whichever choice you make - it's OK.

It seems quite a few people express the concern that without some kind of externally imposed pressures they will somehow not do well. Because they've lived there life that way for so long it can be hard to imagine another way. But think how random those external pressures are. Why not decide what you think is most important and structure your life around your own priorities. Retirement is your opportunity to do just that!

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So true about the first 6 months. I'm still working out sleep length and time. But it really doesn't matter except for occasional appointments and trash/recycle pick up day.
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I think NOT retiring can kill you if you have a really stressful job. Thank goodness I have a piece-of-cake job.
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Did any of you find that you started staying up later at night and sleeping later in the day after retirement?
Exactly what is the difference between going to bed at 10PM and getting up at 6AM and bed at 12:30AM and up at 8:30AM? Except that now I can stay up until 12:30AM and sleep until 8:30AM.
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I am working on losing weight and getting more fit, to combat the downwards slide in my health in recent months. I may not be able to reclaim my youth, but I can reclaim my life and I expect to enjoy many more decades to come.
I see no reason why the average retiree / early retiree can't reclaim his or her youth. What I mean is that there's no reason that the average 60 year old can't be as fit or even more fit than those in their 20's. Most people can be very physically active well into their 80's. For example, I go bicycling with people in their 60's/70's who have more endurance/speed than their grandchildren. They can do things that most people would find astonishing. And these people are not super athletes. They are average people simply doing what they enjoy. I think it's more mental than physical.

Of course, a person doesn't need to be a competitive athlete to be physically fit. 4-5 days a week of walking, swimming, or going to the gym can put one in better shape than the average 20 or 30 year old.

One of my ER goals is to hike the Pacific Crest Trail (Mexico to Canada). If this actually happens, I may do it with one of my friends. She is currently 60. There aren't many 20 year old's who are physically and mentally fit enough to hike 2500+ miles, at elevation, over mountainous terrain.

I've gained a lot of weight over the last 5 years that I attribute to my job. Yes, it's my fault for gaining the weight, but work certainly hasn't helped. I look at (pending) ER as an opportunity to "reclaim myself." Work has been killing me (literally). I believe that ER will save me.
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What I mean is that there's no reason that the average 60 year old can't be as fit or even more fit than those in their 20's. Most people can be very physically active well into their 80's. For example, I go bicycling with people in their 60's/70's who have more endurance/speed than their grandchildren. They can do things that most people would find astonishing. And these people are not super athletes. They are average people simply doing what they enjoy. I think it's more mental than physical.
While there are a number of medical reasons why older people may have issues with exercise, I fully hope/expect to be more active after I retire than before - my "to do" list includes spending a lot more time on the local trails, an overseas marathon or two, scuba diving, sailing, canoeing, possibly a triathalon - all things I simply do not have the time for while working. Best of all, I'll be able to do these things without having to make a habit of getting out of bed at 6 am.

I found this book mildly motivational: Younger Next Year: Turn Back Your Biological Clock: Amazon.co.uk: Christopher Crowley, Henry Lodge: Books
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Heh. "Correlation doesn't imply causation, but it does waggle its eyebrows suggestively and gesture furtively while mouthing 'look over there'. "

Perhaps the people who gave up work completely constitutes a pool that contains not just healthy active early retirees, but also folks who were too ill to carry on working either full or part-time.
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Right. Also, people who continue working "in the same field" probably enjoyed their work before retirement, and found a way to keep the best parts. Consider the college prof who teaches just the courses that were always the most fun, but dumps the committee work.

I don't know how any study could accurately adjust for these important variables.

Note that according to a poll, most people on this board said the final decision on when to retire was driven by negatives at work, rather positives about retirement activities. They got downsized, couldn't get along with a new boss, didn't like new responsibilities, or just had an "I can't take the corporate BS any longer" epiphany. Those reasons don't lend themselves to continuing to work part time in their old field.
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I try to adjust my bedtime hours/waking hours to my wife´s who still has to work-for another 14 years! Mon to Fri I´m up an about by no later than 7.30 AM. I make a point of seeing her off to work. And no, I don´t go back to bed once she is gone.
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Exactly what is the difference between going to bed at 10PM and getting up at 6AM and bed at 12:30AM and up at 8:30AM? Except that now I can stay up until 12:30AM and sleep until 8:30AM.
None. Except Mondays when I need to get trash and recyclables to the curb by 8AM.
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I see no reason why the average retiree / early retiree can't reclaim his or her youth. What I mean is that there's no reason that the average 60 year old can't be as fit or even more fit than those in their 20's. Most people can be very physically active well into their 80's. For example, I go bicycling with people in their 60's/70's who have more endurance/speed than their grandchildren. They can do things that most people would find astonishing. And these people are not super athletes. They are average people simply doing what they enjoy. I think it's more mental than physical.

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Exactly what is the difference between going to bed at 10PM and getting up at 6AM and bed at 12:30AM and up at 8:30AM? Except that now I can stay up until 12:30AM and sleep until 8:30AM.
Get to see the late night shows.

My normal hit the sack time lately is around 10 or 10:30. And no interest in the late night shows. Still practicing retirement, only have three years experience. Another ten or so and I'll be a good beginner.
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...My normal hit the sack time lately is around 10 or 10:30. And no interest in the late night shows. Still practicing retirement, only have three years experience. Another ten or so and I'll be a good beginner.
Yeah, exactly what ls99 said, except modify exp time to 2.5 years.
Still an anti-TV (non educational TV, that is ) fanatic here. Hey, I avoid politics and religion so I have to be passionate about something besides sex and money.
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I usually go to bed at 11 and wake up at 8:30. I'm trying to make up for all the 5:15 wake up days.
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I usually go to bed at 11 and wake up at 8:30. I'm trying to make up for all the 5:15 wake up days.
Just about the same for me.
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After asking questions about sleep and health issues, I started a little test on how it might be for me in retirement. I'm taking 2 weeks vacation so decided to pretend (somewhat) that I was retired. Started off staying up way to late and sleeping to late (not planned just happened). Then I automatically started waking up rather early. So, I started doing little projects that I had been putting off forever & ever. I'll have to say it is really nice to accomplish these little things at my own speed without a worry. I'm just doing one at a time and if I get tired, I chill out.
I THINK I COULD LIVE LIKE THIS FULL TIME !!!!
It really is nice to do what I want to do, when I want to do it.
After just 3 or 4 days, I started getting into the thought of the life style and enjoying it.
Hey, I'm a fast learner or maybe just a natural born Lazy Arse .
Hopefully my family health insurance coverage and my financial plans will come together soon.
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Did any of you find that you started staying up later at night and sleeping later in the day after retirement?
If so, do you consider it a mistake, as far as health is concerned?
Is it better to try and maintain an early to rise life style?
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Is there merit in the Early to bed, early to rise, makes retiree's health wealthy and wise?....
I've tried to settle on an early time to get up because many of my favorite activites start in the morning or mid-day. Even on days without those plans, I do want to be up and about before sunset which is earlier this time of year. Don't know if I've reached an age where I need less sleep or if I need less sleep because the job stress is gone and sleep is sounder. This may be against the retirees' code of ethics but I do sometimes set an alarm. I'm also starting to cut down on caffeine, and if I must have a cup after noon, I make it decaf now.
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I do want to be up and about before sunset which is earlier this time of year
I can see why you still need an alarm clock?
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