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Old 11-14-2005, 01:10 PM   #21
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Someone else mentioned Homeowner's Associations (HOA's). If you could sign up an HOA and do all of their units' ducts, you could make a lot of money, even if you offered them a volume discount.
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Re: Decided to start a business to facilitate ER
Old 11-14-2005, 01:49 PM   #22
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I saw an add in our local paper for duct cleaning. 10 ducts for $79.00 plus another #20 for the cold air return.

Just thought you would like to know the going rate. This was in a newpaper ad in the "local" section and not in the Want Ads part. FYI.

Good luck.
Call that guy up for me, will ya? everyone and his mother will warn you to stay away for the $100 whole hosue special. Ask him these ?'s....
What method do they use to clean ducts?
What type of vacuum do they use (portable, truck mount, 1" hose or 12" hose)
Does this include a biocide/disinfectant...if not, how much would that cost?
Is it 20 for EACH cold air return?
How much for each duct beyounf the 10?
What other cost might you incur?


These companies are referred to as "blow and go" in the industry. They hook up a vacuum, mess aroudn a bit in the registers, and they're done....maybe in an hour or 2....whereas a thorough job might take 4 hrs or more. You'll never find one of these guys willing to show u before/after video....

Please call though, I'm curious.
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Old 11-14-2005, 01:53 PM   #23
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Fed, just to give you my $.02. Make sure you have capitalism working for you. Steer your efforts toward finding good people to handle the actual work. This will let you focus on strategy and marketing and spending time at home with the family . One fundamental thing that I have seen in successful people is that they have good people doing the heavy lifting for them. The US is a great place to start a business because most everyone will give their lives away to you in return for enough money each month to finance the McMansion, big screen tv, etc. Take advantage of that. Don't get caught up in the vents . Stay out of them, breathe clean air and let the others handle your dirty work while you reap the benefits.

Congrats on your new venture. I wish you all the success in the world.

Dave
You read my mind. To me, making 10k/year and doing only the "clerical" stuff-marketing, phone calls etc, is better than 30k/yr and doing the work myself. Reliable help is always an issue though....

And as far as the HOA, that's a good idea. Many condo's even have dryer vents that are common, and probably have never been cleaned. I'm looking into that now....
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Old 11-14-2005, 01:55 PM   #24
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I get those "$79 cleans the whole house" kind of promotions all the time in the Money Mailer (envelope full of coupons). You have to distinguish your service from those $79 dollar guys somehow to be successful. Convince people that duct cleaning is not a commodity good. Show them your uniqueness, expertise, whatever, that sets you apart from your $79 competition.
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I get those "$79 cleans the whole house" kind of promotions all the time in the Money Mailer (envelope full of coupons). You have to distinguish your service from those $79 dollar guys somehow to be successful. Convince people that duct cleaning is not a commodity good. Show them your uniqueness, expertise, whatever, that sets you apart from your $79 competition.
Oh, I will. Even the EPA advises AGAINST those $99 deals. Maybe I'll find their quote and include it in my advertising....
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Not to nit-pick, but I think that quote is from Charles Kingsley (it's the accountant in me that makes me notice mundane details like this!)
Yep, I googled and came up with C Kingsley. I pass all blame to HaHa on regarding Einstein. Still love the quote.
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I second the getting good help; ever been in a Tx attic in summah
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Funny thing guys: I'm having a helluva time gettng some business cards made up RIGHT. I had a local printer do some, and they were crappy, so I requested they were done over...and they gave me an allmighty attitude. SO, I'm taking my business elsewhere. I tried to do some online, but cant get my graphics to appear correctly.

Such a simple task, yet sooo time consuming....
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Kinko's...
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Kinko's...
Since FedEx bought them they've changed their name to Finko's...

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Funny thing guys: I'm having a helluva time gettng some business cards made up RIGHT. I had a local printer do some, and they were crappy, so I requested they were done over...and they gave me an allmighty attitude. SO, I'm taking my business elsewhere. I tried to do some online, but cant get my graphics to appear correctly.

Such a simple task, yet sooo time consuming....
Welcome to Small Business Ownership 101. And expect 100 more of these little issues to pop up before you start making money.
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Welcome to Small Business Ownership 101. And expect 100 more of these little issues to pop up before you start making money.
i hear ya. workign a 9-5 doesnt help much either....
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So who's a marketing guru here?

What brilliant marketing ideas for my new company do you all have? I'm looking for the most effective, yet cost-effective methods. Nearly free is company "alliances" that can give referral.s Yellow pages is a must (and creating an ad is a whole new ballgame....need to find a pro marketer to make it worthwhile). Newspapers, dollar saver magazines

What else am I missing? I'm not interested in radio or TV, too much $$!LOL

Any ideas will be super...every day I'm getting closer and closer to "opening up shop".
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So who's a marketing guru here?

What brilliant marketing ideas for my new company do you all have?* I'm looking for the most effective, yet cost-effective methods. Nearly free is company "alliances" that can give referral.s Yellow pages is a must (and creating an ad is a whole new ballgame....need to find a pro marketer to make it worthwhile).* Newspapers, dollar saver magazines

What else am I missing?* I'm not interested in radio or TV, too much $$!LOL

Any ideas will be super...every day I'm getting closer and closer to "opening up shop".
We've already mentioned mailers in envelopes (called "money mailer" near me). How about tacking flyers in suburban home mailboxes?
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What brilliant marketing ideas for my new company do you all have?
Have you heard of Happy Crack?* * Here's a guy who repairs concrete cracks.* *The most boring business you can imagine.* *And he created a cult following:

Mr.* Happy Crack

This sort of approach is no harder to do than the typical boring approach, but it's much more effective and fun.* *Your challenge as a duct cleaner is to distinguish yourself from every other duct cleaner in the yellow pages and to get people interested enough in your service to give you a second look.

How about calling yourself Duct Man, and licensing the DuckMan character?
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*Your challenge as a duct cleaner is to distinguish yourself from every other duct cleaner in the yellow pages and to get people interested enough in your service to give you a second look.

How about calling yourself Duct Man, and licensing the DuckMan character?
Here's another fun name I seen yesterday for a duct cleaner...

Air Force One...

your phone message greeting could be: "The force is with you, thanks for calling Air Force One..."

Plus, you would be one of the first in the yellow pages under "A".

All the Best to you!

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Or have a picture of a french maid with large breasts saying "I'll suck your Ducts for 200 bucks!"

LOL


this may sound like a dumb ?, but do you think letterhead is a worthwhile investment? I can BUY thicker stock paper for 55.00 for 500 sheets, and simply print my logo and the letters out on my home printer. OR, for about 140.00, I can have professionally made letterhead with color logo at the top, and a footer.

OR, do you think that neither is needed, and I should just use computer paper with the logo at the top of each document,printed @ home.

These letters will be going out to potential "alliance"-worthy companies.
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Here's another fun name I seen yesterday for a duct cleaner...

Air Force One...

your phone message greeting could be: "The force is with you, thanks for calling Air Force One..."

Plus, you would be one of the first in the yellow pages under "A".

All the Best to you!
Whatever your name your motto could be:

"We Outsuck the Competition!"
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I can see where this is going to go....
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Local drilling concern has the motto "Your hole is our goal"...

I would not expend my much-needed capital on expensive letterheads and such; homemade or boilerplate. Spend that moolah on advertising!!!
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