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Seems like when they get really low, they stay there a looong while before very gradually moving up.


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With declining commodity prices, very low core inflation, a government that has 18 T. debt - the government will not raise rates - With Germany 10 year at .34 and Japan at .41 the US at 2.14
The US 10 year has a lot to fall - looking for the 10 year to fall below 1 percent by the end of the year.
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With declining commodity prices, very low core inflation, a government that has 18 T. debt - the government will not raise rates - With Germany 10 year at .34 and Japan at .41 the US at 2.14
The US 10 year has a lot to fall - looking for the 10 year to fall below 1 percent by the end of the year.

I certainly don't know the future, but I agree with you. I have been hesitant to invest fully in this market, but going the route of buying preferred's has helped me. The spread between them and corporates/treasuries has been on the high side. I can live with price fluctuations grabbing 6.5%-7% yield on my money. In fact I hope they drop as it will give me a reason to cash my IBonds and plow it all in on them. Most of the ones I have bought have been around for a long time, and except for the 2008 terror, they have historically stayed pretty tight to par.


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bonds have been taking it on the chin the last few weeks. the long treasury bond has lost 8% in not even 3 weeks. corporate bond funds 2% which means most are now running at a zero interest rate as the 2% loss in nav offsets the interest unless rates fall back.
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bonds have been taking it on the chin the last few weeks. the long treasury bond has lost 8% in not even 3 weeks. corporate bond funds 2% which means most are now running at a zero interest rate as the 2% loss in nav offsets the interest unless rates fall back.
Yet not quite back to where we started the year. Just gave back most of Jan's dramatic gains, not counting the dividends paid YTD. <yawn>
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