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01-05-2019, 03:44 PM
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Recycles dryer sheets
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Do I take the job?
Am looking to retire in 3-4 years time. The job market in the Boston area for technology professionals is HOT. Do I stay at my present non profit company where I’m well respected but are tired of continually moving from assignment to assignment once I get the work headed in the right direction, and aren’t too crazy about recent top down organization changes OR do I jump to another MegaCorp for 20-30% more pay and bank it all?
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01-05-2019, 04:09 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 4,661
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Originally Posted by nhcycling
Am looking to retire in 3-4 years time. The job market in the Boston area for technology professionals is HOT. Do I stay at my present non profit company where I’m well respected but are tired of continually moving from assignment to assignment once I get the work headed in the right direction, and aren’t too crazy about recent top down organization changes OR do I jump to another MegaCorp for 20-30% more pay and bank it all?
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Jump!
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01-05-2019, 04:10 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,405
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Find the right fit and jump! Unless you are giving up a big pension. Yeah, right...
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01-05-2019, 04:23 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: St. Charles
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Is 20% to 30 % going to make a big difference for 3-4 years?
You gotta make the call, but that green grass over there is some times an illusion. More hassle, more travel, more BS.
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01-05-2019, 04:59 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Twin Cities
Posts: 3,927
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Do I take the job?
There are probably 50 variables that go into such an analysis, which is more complexity than Internet strangers can help with reliably. Quality of my supervisor is enormous for me, commute hassle, whether taking the job gives me more options than the current one, what is best for my marriage, budget problems at the current org or there, resources to do the work expected, normal work day or 24/7 tethered and on call, etc, etc, etc. Salary is somewhere on that complicated list but not tops for me. I once turned down a chance to double my salary, because my wife didn’t want me on the road all the time. She was right and an inner voice told me that shiny object would have turned to lead in no time.
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01-05-2019, 05:11 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Mar 2012
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I'll go with CardsFan - stay put.
You have seniority where you are. You're respected and don't have to prove anything to anyone. You know your job and responsibilities. If you jump, you will be starting at square one, bottom of the totem pole, and during the honeymoon period, you'll be going above and beyond to prove yourself. You're going to be working harder and likely putting in more hours. That's what your first 6 to 12 months is going to be like.
Only you can decide, but don't just look at it as 20% to 30% more money (maybe really 15% to 25% after taxes), there are other aspects to it.
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01-05-2019, 06:12 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: USA
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Sounds like the current job is not as "fun" anymore with assignments or management. If a new job provides new fun, new technology, and new personal challenge, I would go with switching. The +20 - 30% is nice, but you probably don't need it, but they probably have deeper pockets to reward a job well done. It can fund a crazy purchase or extra annual trip.
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01-05-2019, 11:03 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Spending the Kids Inheritance and living in Chicago
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Yes Jump.
After all, in 2 years you may find another company offering another 30% jump.
While the market is hot, the risk is lower that you will jump and then they suddenly lay everyone off.
It will be harder, but doing new things is exciting, besides won't you be disappointed if you stay and your non-profit management decides to lay you off.
However, as someone mentioned, don't jump if it kills your pension (if any).
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01-06-2019, 04:39 AM
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Location: Michigan
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There will be some risks in changing, but you do not have a lot of time to go anyway.
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01-06-2019, 06:22 AM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: in the sticks
Posts: 473
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Do you have the energy ‘in the bank’ to make such a change at this point, knowing what your ultimate next step is going to be?
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01-06-2019, 06:29 AM
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Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 13,879
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nhcycling
...tired of continually moving from assignment to assignment once I get the work headed in the right direction, and aren’t too crazy about recent top down organization changes
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The above highlighted two points happen everywhere, no matter what the hiring manager tells you, and will happen again everywhere over 3-4 years.
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Originally Posted by nhcycling
my present non profit company where I’m well respected
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Now that point? That doesn't happen everywhere, and chances are you won't get that feeling again being at a new place with only 3-4 years. Leaving that for 20-30%, into a potentially sluggish economy, assuming you're already over 40 and it's in IT?...nope I'd stay put and find ways to not let the org stuff get to you.
ETA: You wrote this 3 weeks ago:
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Originally Posted by nhcycling
I did it 10 years ago, gave up that high paying demanding, stressful job. I enjoy what I do now but I love being home in the evening, not working weekends, not traveling. Best decision yet.
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You are not going to have evenings and weekends free in a new hot IT role, and you very likely will have travel.
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01-06-2019, 08:39 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2017
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Investigate all aspects of the job being offered, including the work environment.
If the market is hot, you can look around for a job with higher pay, that suits your preferences.
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01-06-2019, 11:08 AM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Austin
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At this stage of your career, only you will know whether it's worth while to jump.
I am 4 years away from finishing my engineering work, and I am not looking to change even if some other co offers to double my compensation. I still get unsolicited calls and mails from recruiters though I haven't got any active resume since 10 years ago. And I was a jumpy person as I worked for 9 company during the past 22 years.
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01-06-2019, 11:19 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nhcycling
Am looking to retire in 3-4 years time. The job market in the Boston area for technology professionals is HOT. Do I stay at my present non profit company where I’m well respected but are tired of continually moving from assignment to assignment once I get the work headed in the right direction, and aren’t too crazy about recent top down organization changes OR do I jump to another MegaCorp for 20-30% more pay and bank it all?
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Since you don't have an offer, I'd say it sounds like a good time to test your skills toolbox on the market. Your experience may be a good fit with one of the hot companies.
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01-06-2019, 11:55 AM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Rural community
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerides
The above highlighted two points happen everywhere, no matter what the hiring manager tells you, and will happen again everywhere over 3-4 years.
Now that point? That doesn't happen everywhere, and chances are you won't get that feeling again being at a new place with only 3-4 years. Leaving that for 20-30%, into a potentially sluggish economy, assuming you're already over 40 and it's in IT?...nope I'd stay put and find ways to not let the org stuff get to you.
ETA: You wrote this 3 weeks ago:
You are not going to have evenings and weekends free in a new hot IT role, and you very likely will have travel.
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Yes, true. I think I’m just bored now after years in the slow lane. What this non profit considers high pressure and challenging isn’t really, and they give me their so called high visibility assignments.
I’m thinking I need something fresh and new. I don’t know. Maybe I need to find a non work passion for 3-4 more years?
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01-06-2019, 11:56 AM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Rural community
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Originally Posted by target2019
Since you don't have an offer, I'd say it sounds like a good time to test your skills toolbox on the market. Your experience may be a good fit with one of the hot companies.
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No pension haha - I wish
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01-06-2019, 11:57 AM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Rural community
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CardsFan
Is 20% to 30 % going to make a big difference for 3-4 years?
You gotta make the call, but that green grass over there is some times an illusion. More hassle, more travel, more BS.
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20-30% doesn’t make a difference in the big scheme. It may be that one big splurge though.
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01-06-2019, 12:05 PM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Rural community
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Markola
There are probably 50 variables that go into such an analysis, which is more complexity than Internet strangers can help with reliably. Quality of my supervisor is enormous for me, commute hassle, whether taking the job gives me more options than the current one, what is best for my marriage, budget problems at the current org or there, resources to do the work expected, normal work day or 24/7 tethered and on call, etc, etc, etc. Salary is somewhere on that complicated list but not tops for me. I once turned down a chance to double my salary, because my wife didn’t want me on the road all the time. She was right and an inner voice told me that shiny object would have turned to lead in no time.
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I loved what I did for 9 years before they reorganized. I had a great management team, cool technology. This past year they reorganized to central groups, it’s meh. There’s not enough skilled staff that do what I do so they keep moving me from one ‘rescue’ assignment to another. It takes tremendous energy to learn and get up to speed quickly. Just when the tough part is done and the project is over that hump, off I go to the next thing instead of staying with it for a half year or longer to completion.
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01-06-2019, 12:39 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Spending the Kids Inheritance and living in Chicago
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If you get a 33% raise, you could retire in 3 yrs instead of 4 !
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01-06-2019, 12:45 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunset
If you get a 33% raise, you could retire in 3 yrs instead of 4 !
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Not if the portfolio is say 10x salary and he's counting on the extra year of growth.
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