Edward Jones advisor?

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How do tell an Edward Jones financial advisor I'm not interested?

He's was referred to me unsolicited by a very nice, long time business client; also his close friend. I told him I'm not sure he can help me cause I've managed fine my whole life without professional help, that I can quit tomorrow to live comfortably forever on passive income alone if I need to, and that I can generate safe after-tax return of 6-8% with my cash should I need to or if I want to. A week later he offer to meet for an in depth analysis to my unique situation. I'm pretty sure he wants to sell me annuity and expensive 5.75% front-loaded American Fund. HOW DO I KINDLY TELL HIM OFF without endangering my long time business client?
 
hmmmmmm.... I suppose continue to say thank you but no thank you.
OR, depending on personalities, level with him and tell him Look, I **really** am doing fine on my own. I respect Jones, but your investment style and mine just don't mesh. I don't want to offend you, but I just don't think it would be a good marriage.
 
No offense, but it sounds like you left the door open a crack for him when you said, "I'm not sure he can help me cause..." and opened it wider and invited him in when you explained your situation to him. He may have taken that as asking/hinting for his feedback/advice about your plans. With aggressive sales people, IME you have to be definite -- "Thank you, but I'm not interested." No explanations are necessary, and sales people (as a rule) have pretty thick skins when it comes to rejections. Then if he persists, politely, "I'm sorry -- I thought I was clear that I appreciate the offer but I'm not interested. If he persists after that, IMO all bets are off. YMMV.

Tyro
 
Tell him your main interest is in options (EJ is not in this business). That's the way I got rid of a very nice young man who kept calling me. I told him to give me a call if they ever got into this business. I haven't heard back from him.
 
Tell him that as fan of Warren Buffett, you are following his lead in hiring investment advisers. You want to see their personal portfolio transactions and tax returns from 2007-2012. If the guy gives them to you and he is outperforming the market the indexes with similar asset allocation well hear him out.

I have been asking potential investment adviser for this information for more than a dozen year and have yet to receive the info. Not surprisingly Buffett got the info he was seeking.
 
Tell him firmly that you aren't interested and to quit calling you. I can't imagine he is going to go running back to your business client whining that you won't hire him, and so what if he does.
 
Just tell him thanks, but no thanks.

Maybe also tell him that if he doesn't stop approaching you, you'll have to discuss with your mutual friend how uncomfortable he is making you so that mutual friend will stop referring others to him.

Did your long time client tell you he was going to have EJ contact you or did he give you the contact info and you called EJ first (doesn't sound like it)? I would be ticked at the client if he didn't ask me if he could have his EJ friend call me, so I could put the kibosh on it right away.

Sounds like you are doing fine on your own!
 
Yep, you are too nice and left them the option of calling you. My spouse is that way as well. An EJ salesrep walked the neighborhood and my spouse answered the door. She kept getting calls until I answered the phone and said to the salesrep, "We are never ever going to do business with you, so please do not ever call us or contact us again. You are really wasting my time and your time." I then hung up before they could say anything.

Note: I did not even say "Thank you" at the end.
 
hmmmmmm.... I suppose continue to say thank you but no thank you.
OR, depending on personalities, level with him and tell him Look, I **really** am doing fine on my own. I respect Jones, but your investment style and mine just don't mesh. I don't want to offend you, but I just don't think it would be a good marriage.

+1 DH and I had to do the same with Fisher Investments. You have already proven to yourself that you won't need the EJ services.

Best of luck! :)
 
Well, you have received some advice, some good, some ugly. It might seem a little tricky, but it's really not.

Say something like this: "I have given this some thought, and I have decided to continue managing my investments myself. At this point in my life, I guess I am a creature of habit. Our mutual business client, _______ probably thought we would be a good fit, and if I wasn't comfortable handling my investments all these years, he probably would be correct, but I am, so I am not interested"........
 
How do tell an Edward Jones financial advisor I'm not interested?

He's was referred to me unsolicited by a very nice, long time business client; also his close friend. .... HOW DO I KINDLY TELL HIM OFF without endangering my long time business client?

It doesn't seem that your business client had any qualms about unleashing (I actually started typing 'unleaching', not sure I should have 'corrected' that or not!) a salesperson on you unsolicited. Why are you concerned about endangering the relationship when he/she clearly is not?

And if you can quit tomorrow, what difference does it make if this client decides to let this affect your business relationship? That seems petty anyway - you have every right to just say 'no', you don't owe the client anything, just the opposite in fact.

OTOH, I have heard that some of these EJ advisors can be very nice, very polite and always available. So if you need to buy a friend, maybe give it some consideration? :LOL:

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Well, you have received some advice, some good, some ugly.

:confused: Which advice was 'ugly'? Thanks but no thanks? Just being honest and telling them that they are wasting their time?

-ERD50
 
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Well, you have received some advice, some good, some ugly. It might seem a little tricky, but it's really not.

Say something like this: "I have given this some thought, and I have decided to continue managing my investments myself. At this point in my life, I guess I am a creature of habit. Our mutual business client, _______ probably thought we would be a good fit, and if I wasn't comfortable handling my investments all these years, he probably would be correct, but I am, so I am not interested"........

Although that is a nice way to say "no thanks" for the OP's third time saying "no thanks", there is an argument the EJ guy will come back with on every point you make (and probably has a script to use for each of them):

I've given this some thought (but you haven't heard my spectacular plan for you!)
Continue managing my investments myself (would a doctor operate on him/herself? I'm an expert, you're an amateur)
I am a creature of habit (that's why you need a fresh approach, you are too ingrained in your ways, times have changed)
Client thought we would be a good fit (there's a reason your client thought this, let me explain my spectacular plan to you)
If I wasn't comfortable handling my investments all these years (see creature of habit comeback)
 
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I've given this some thought (but you haven't heard my spectacular plan for you!)
Continue managing my investments myself (would a doctor operate on him/herself? I'm an expert, you're an amateur)
I am a creature of habit (that's why you need a fresh approach, you are too ingrained in your ways, times have changed)
Client thought we would be a good fit (there's a reason your client thought this, let me explain my spectacular plan to you)
If I wasn't comfortable handling my investments all these years (see creature of habit comeback)
The response to each of these comebacks:

"What part of 'NO' do you not understand?" :)
 
No offense, but it sounds like you left the door open a crack for him when you said, "I'm not sure he can help me cause..." and opened it wider and invited him in when you explained your situation to him. He may have taken that as asking/hinting for his feedback/advice about your plans. With aggressive sales people, IME you have to be definite -- "Thank you, but I'm not interested." No explanations are necessary, and sales people (as a rule) have pretty thick skins when it comes to rejections. Then if he persists, politely, "I'm sorry -- I thought I was clear that I appreciate the offer but I'm not interested. If he persists after that, IMO all bets are off. YMMV.

Tyro
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:confused: Which advice was 'ugly'? Thanks but no thanks? Just being honest and telling them that they are wasting their time?
-ERD50

Follow clifp's advice, and OP will be in a pickle with his business client.........;)
 
Although that is a nice way to say "no thanks" for the OP's third time saying "no thanks", there is an argument the EJ guy will come back with on every point you make (and probably has a script to use for each of them):

Then the EJ advisor should not be one........because that would clearly tell him in a nice way to bug off.......;)

But, of course, everyone on this forum is an experienced advisor, so maybe I should let others answer..........:LOL:
 
I'm not clear on what business you engage in with your client/customer but how about a conflict of interest argument?
 
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Follow clifp's advice, and OP will be in a pickle with his business client.........;)

I don't see why. Proof of past performance is a reasonable request. If the FA does not wish to comply, the OP can simply say that he also does not wish to do business with him.

I don't know why any of us not being an FA would have anything to do with this. I've also never had my own driveway seal-coating business - but when one of those guys comes up to me unsolicited, I send him packing. I can't imagine that I'd have to walk a mile in his shoes before I can say "No"?

-ERD50
 
Im probably the nice one of the bunch - If the advisor is one of the long-term EJ guys, Id probably politely take a short meeting and outline your situation. He or she may be sharp enough to get a small slice of your portfolio.

I'm a do it yourself guy, but I am always thankful to an advisor eight years ago that put me on to an excellent mutual fund manager that was putty small at the time.
 
Follow clifp's advice, and OP will be in a pickle with his business client.........;)

Why is this? Now to be sure my advice is mostly factious designed to get rid of an aggressive EJ broker. But I think the principal is sound. People that are promising to perform a service, almost always provide references. I went to see a carpenter about doing kitchen cabinets recently, he happily showed me the cabinets in his kitchen and all of his other wood work. If I was interested in pursuing in further he would have provided me with the phone number of other satisfied clients. For some reason this isn't common in the financial "service" industry.

A bit of background in 1999 when I retired I was 39, had 3+ million in lottery winnings (i.e. stock options). I was a reasonably knowledgeable about investing, with both credentials (MBA) and 17 years of investing experience. But FIRECalc, internet forums other than the Motley Fool, researchers like Wade Pfau etc and other source of info were all well in the future.

So like many new folks on the forum, I had anxiety about being able to manage my money by myself. I met with several potential adviser finally narrowing the list down to Fisher investments. After a few meeting and many hours I was leaning to signing up with them. I asked the two Fisher investment guys for proof that their strategy produced good returns.

"I'd like to see the annual returns all the money under your management, as well as a the monthly statement for a couple representative accounts that are similar in size and objectives to my portfolio with the names and account numbers removed."

"Ah well we can't do that for privacy reasons" they responded. "Ok well how about providing me with your personal portfolio statements", I asked.
They smiled and shook their heads. At which point, being pretty annoyed I said. "Look you guys want me to give you $30,000 a year to manage my money, and you aren't willing to make some extra effort to show my why I should hire you, do I really look that stupid."? Schwab periodically rolls out new investment advisers, and I happily attend the seminars they invite me to. I have meet with a few advisers, and pretty much always ask for the same thing, (generally with more tact), and it always ends the conversation. Which isn't a bad thing after all.:D

Still I felt vindicated when Warren Buffet required everything I asked for plus tax returns before hiring two investment adviser to run Berkshire's portfolio.

Now there are definitely easier ways of telling the EJ guy to get lost. The one advantage of my approach is the OP could look his business friend in the eye and tell him. "Thanks for the referral, but unfortunately he wasn't willing to do business with me." Which may lead to conversation about how good the EJ guy really is and lead his business client to figure out that we was paying a lot for very little. Which might lead to very happy customer when he ditches EJ.
 
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I don't see why. Proof of past performance is a reasonable request. If the FA does not wish to comply, the OP can simply say that he also does not wish to do business with him.

What if FINRA and the SEC don't allow FAs to do that? Maybe that's why clifp has never gotten anyone to provide that info. ;)
 
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