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Old 11-17-2015, 06:30 PM   #61
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We just had installed a land line a month ago from AT&T when the package cost for the phone and internet service was the same or less than internet service by itself. Within a few hours of installing the phone we started receiving calls. I guess we get about 6+ a day. We ignore all of them and when checked on the caller ID they are usually from out of state or Canada. Heck, we don't even remember the phone number ourselves and no one we know has been told. The phone will be used for out going calls only or as emergency calls in from either my wife or me if the cell phone is not answered. Any incoming calls are most likely robo calls, calls for donations, or scams. There is a message for incoming calls that we don't answer calls that are not on our directory (there is no directory) and don't call back. We also put the phone number on the No Call Registry.

Do you think we can make money on these callers like you see on TV?

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Old 11-17-2015, 07:25 PM   #62
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Have you signed up for NoMoRobo.com? It was recommended here and it's free. Their computer detects that short period of dead air after you answer a robo-call and disconnects it. You answer a call only if it rings more than once.
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Old 11-17-2015, 08:56 PM   #63
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So I don't think it's necessarily a medical issue that makes people gullible. I think it's more a personality trait. Too greedy, too empathetic, too trusting, whatever.
Here at ER.org we may be plenty greedy, but empathic or trusting...maybe not.

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Have you signed up for NoMoRobo.com? It was recommended here and it's free. Their computer detects that short period of dead air after you answer a robo-call and disconnects it. You answer a call only if it rings more than once.
NoMoRoBo is good, but to clarify, it doesn't work as you described.

You need the 'simultaneous ring' feature, and you get set up to ring a NoMoRoBo number simultaneously with your line. The Caller ID info is received between the 1st and 2nd ring. Their computers checks the Caller ID, if it is in their data base as a 'scammer', they hang up, dropping the call for both of you. If the number is 'clean', it keeps ringing both.

The scammers are getting around it though - they just use random numbers, sometimes a number in your area, sometimes your own number.

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Predators and sociopaths. The real dregs of society, they prey on the most vulnerable.
I've known a few people who were so desperate they fell for this crap. What I don't get are those who aren't desperate, and fall for it. (And I know a number of those.)
I also screen calls. In fact, I can't remember the last time I answered the phone.
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Had a variation of the Facebook scam today. I received a friend request from a cousin that was already on my friends list. I thought that strange but accepted the request. Later in the day I got a message that appeared to be from her saying she had great news for me and launched into a way she had gotten $100,000 dollars from some organization and said she was sending me a friend request from them. When I received the request I looked at it and it was a picture of some guy holding a check supposedly from a lottery. Being suspicious I asked my supposed cousin what is the name of an Aunt in a specific town. We are old enough that there are only 2 Aunts still alive. The person accused me of not believing them. I responded with "can you not answer the question?" and they did not answer. When I tried to send a message I was now blocked. At this point I contacted my cousin to let her know her Facebook account had been hacked. I guess the point of all this is that if you get a friend request from someone already on your friend list LOOK OUT.
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The one that blew me away was an episode on Dr. Phil. This lady had sent cars and money to Nigeria to this man who "Loved" her. The picture he used was someone else on Facebook. They had the man there, and this woman still could not believe she had been scammed.
She had t o have cognitive deficiencies
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I recall another unrelated post asking about Gmail. I use Gmail and am now thankful. I'm now getting about 3 scam emails a day. Gmail automatically puts them in a separate Spam folder. I just delete them, but the theme is the same on all of them: trying to get in touch with me because their accounts payable department needs to send me money, or something to that effect.
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Just a couple of minutes ago I got another of the famous Nigerian lawyer emails looking for a relative of someone who died and left millions. Apparently there are still people dumb enough to fall for that crap. Years ago I would play along with them for awhile now I just delete them.
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If you think that only the elderlies are gullible, you need to watch "Compliance", a 2012 movie on DVD that I happened to check out from the library.

After watching it, seeing how ridiculous the storyline plays out, and also seeing the claim that it is based on a true event, I searched the Web and found that the movie sticks fairly close to real life.

A prankster called a McDonald fast food store in Kentucky pretending to be a policeman, and persuaded the female manager of the store to strip search a 18-year old female worker because she was suspected of stealing from a customer. The worker was left naked, while waiting for the police to arrive.

As ridiculous as it sounds, the caller eventually was able to talk the female manager into bringing in her boyfriend to watch the naked worker in custody while waiting for the police. The naked worker was made to do jumping jacks, and other humiliating acts. This boyfriend ended up sexually abusing the young worker under the coaching of the prankster.

It turned out that this prankster had done the same at several other fast-food stores throughout the nation via long distance calls. However, no other cases went beyond the strip search and ended up in sexual abuse as this Kentucky case.

It is so unreal, you would think someone made up this ridiculous story.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compliance_(film)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strip_...ashington_scam
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The one that blew me away was an episode on Dr. Phil. This lady had sent cars and money to Nigeria to this man who "Loved" her. The picture he used was someone else on Facebook. They had the man there, and this woman still could not believe she had been scammed.
She had t o have cognitive deficiencies
Look up "confirmation bias" and "cognitive dissonance" to see that you don't have to be a dimwit to deny your foolishness. Sad but all too common at any age.
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If you think that only the elderlies are gullible, you need to watch "Compliance", a 2012 movie on DVD that I happened to check out from the library.

After watching it, seeing how ridiculous the storyline plays out, and also seeing the claim that it is based on a true event, I searched the Web and found that the movie sticks fairly close to real life.

A prankster called a McDonald fast food store in Kentucky pretending to be a policeman, and persuaded the female manager of the store to strip search a 18-year old female worker because she was suspected of stealing from a customer. The worker was left naked, while waiting for the police to arrive.

As ridiculous as it sounds, the caller eventually was able to talk the female manager into bringing in her boyfriend to watch the naked worker in custody while waiting for the police. The naked worker was made to do jumping jacks, and other humiliating acts. This boyfriend ended up sexually abusing the young worker under the coaching of the prankster.

It turned out that this prankster had done the same at several other fast-food stores throughout the nation via long distance calls. However, no other cases went beyond the strip search and ended up in sexual abuse as this Kentucky case.

It is so unreal, you would think someone made up this ridiculous story.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compliance_(film)
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strip_...ashington_scam
There was a Law & Order SVU episode based on this, too. Robin Williams was the guest star in this superb episode.

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Two cases reported just in this week's local news--one "elderly" woman (no age given by newspaper, just the term used) sent more than $35k to a foreign country thinking they were fees for the big sweepstakes she had won. She told her son about it a month later and he called the cops. The second "elderly" (again, no age given) victim was called by someone pretending to be a public defender, and she wired almost $4k for her grandson's bail--later that day she called her grandson, who had not been arrested. Too bad both women didn't call their families before sending money.
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The one that blew me away was an episode on Dr. Phil. This lady had sent cars and money to Nigeria to this man who "Loved" her. The picture he used was someone else on Facebook. They had the man there, and this woman still could not believe she had been scammed.
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Another example of "not only the elderly," although we had previously alerted our parents to this one: How I Fell Face First for an Epic IRS Scam | Narratively | Human stories, boldly told.

If greed doesn't reel you in, how about fear of being jailed by the IRS?
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Elder fraud, on line dating scams, and affinity fraud are very common where I live. The authorities cannot keep up with them and do not have the manpower to investigate or prosecute.
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It appears that most (all?) scams that CR article refers to can be easily avoided by personal action and research. Many seniors that I know think that they are too old to learn simple investing techniques that we all take for granted on this forum. This makes them an easy target for slimy scammers.
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Another example of "not only the elderly," although we had previously alerted our parents to this one: How I Fell Face First for an Epic IRS Scam | Narratively | Human stories, boldly told.

If greed doesn't reel you in, how about fear of being jailed by the IRS?
Pretty wild story. Glad she decided to disobey the scammer's orders and talk to Kate, her son's "other mother(?)" who was able to stop this runaway train. That seems to be a common thread in these scams: "Don't tell anyone because....." That, to me, is the part which most amazes me, that someone takes that "order" seriously in these scams. "I need to talk to my lawyer first" should always smoke out these scammers.
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That seems to be a common thread in these scams: "Don't tell anyone because....." That, to me, is the part which most amazes me, that someone takes that "order" seriously in these scams. "I need to talk to my lawyer first" should always smoke out these scammers.
+1. Of course, I never answer calls from unknown numbers in the first place and I expect the IRS would have sent at least the final written notice by certified or registered mail.
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Pretty wild story. Glad she decided to disobey the scammer's orders and talk to Kate, her son's "other mother(?)" who was able to stop this runaway train. That seems to be a common thread in these scams: "Don't tell anyone because....." That, to me, is the part which most amazes me, that someone takes that "order" seriously in these scams. "I need to talk to my lawyer first" should always smoke out these scammers.
I was agog at a host of things in that piece, but the caller I.D. of "911" should be a tipoff to even someone who is not at all familiar of how the IRS (and DOJ) operate.
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