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Old 08-21-2014, 12:56 PM   #21
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I'm the OP... 8.8 cents per is total bill divided by usage.. as you can see, not a whole lot of mystery fees, just taxes mainly. Company is TriEagle

Texas has an interesting state run website that allow us to compare rates and terms of all of the resellers..

it is HERE
If you want to check out the wide variety of pricing and terms, put in a zip code... a Dallas zip code is 75229 if you want to explore.
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Old 08-21-2014, 01:11 PM   #22
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July usage was 955kWh. Bill was $156.37.

Rate is $0.1161, plus a base rate of $4.95, or $115.83.

With fees, etc., "rate" jumps to $0.1637...
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Total bill / Total kWH = $0.0957
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How much do you pay per KWH?
Also in Texas. Our July was relatively cool though weather wise, so we must be in a different part of Texas. July bill for 3000+ sq ft home was $187. We pay about 10.4 cents a KWH (total bill / usage). A/C is set to 77 upstairs at night, 78 downstairs. We have ceiling fans in every large room and every bedroom, too.
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Cost per KWH isn't something they list on the bill ;-)

Tariff 013 - Residential Service
Generation Service $40.22
Transmission Service $7.97
Distribution Service $33.62
Customer Charge $4.52
Retail Stability Rider $2.94
Deferred Asset Phase-In Rider $1.65
Current Electric Charges Due $90.92

Elsewhere on the bill it says the meter was 33969 on 6/26 and is now 34522 on 7/28, so that gives 553 KWH

$90.92 / 553 KWH = 16 per KWH
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I am always shocked to see how cheap electricity costs elsewhere. We pay through the nose here on Long Island.

Here on Long Island, PSE&G (formerly LIPA) splits the per-kwh charge into 2 parts. One is within the delivery and system charges and the other is a "power supply" charge which rises and falls fairly often (and is supposed to drop a little bit with our next bill).

I used 420 kwh for the ~month ending 7/21/14. It is usually my highest usage although this year I was away for 2 weeks in that time. Also, they read our meters every 2 months and provide an estimated reading on the off-months. This was an estimate reading so I expect my next bill, an actual meter reading, to be quite lower.

Adding the DSC and PSC together, which represents $75 of my $92 total bill, I paid 14.8 cents per kwh. If I were to use the entire bill which includes basic charges and some other small charges, I paid 22.0 cents per kwh.
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First 200 Kwh = 9.79 cents, 21.859 cents per Kwh above that, + 11.85/month "customer charge" + 4.10/month energy efficiency charge.

Total is $70-100/month. No A/C, no heat, in fact no 220 either - just lights and outlets.

Averaged 19.25 cents per KwH last month.
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All of the rates add up to:

$.091/KWH plus a $20.25 base fee.

$49.40 for 264 KWHs.
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So do you mean - total monthly $$$ divided by total monthly kWh? Or something else? -ERD50
It has to be that in this case, doesn't it ?

Can you say to your utility "Thanks, I'll just pay for the electricity only, I'm not paying the delivery charge"

Far as I know, you can't go to the generating station and pickup your own electricity...
Actually, we can. So wipe that smile off yer face, feller! (j/k)

In my area, we can choose a different supplier, but we still pay ComEd for 'distribution charges'. It all comes on one bill. My neighbor may be choosing a different source than I am. Our municipality bargained on our behalf, but we can opt-out and choose another if we care to.

https://www.comed.com/about-us/econo...er-choice.aspx

But more to the point, someone posting here may not do the math on total $/total kWh, they might just see a line that says $0.88 per kWh or something, and as you say, that's not the whole thing.

I'll need to dig click up a recent bill to report that.

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I have a different perspective on electric bills. When I was a young man I spent a few weeks with my grandfather who lived on a farm completely off the grid. He had to draw water, light oil lamps, chop wood and "go" to a privy. My electric bill averages between 5-8 dollars per day. Unlike my grandfather, I live in a 2300 sq ft house, electric stove, air conditioning, inside bathrooms, 3 TVs, internet, garage door openers, water to the house, etc. I think my electric bill is one of the best deals I've ever gotten! Many people spend this amount daily at Starbucks.
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We pay $0.1109 / kWh total cost. If I didn't have an alternate provider and was using Duke it would be a little over $0.12 /kWh total cost.
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Official charge for electricity is $.1308/kWh. Add in other costs and it was $.2037/KwH for 163 KW for a total bill of $33.21. I don't like the high cost per KwH but I do like summer in Wisconsin. In winter it's not unusual to use 7-8X the Kw for a total bill of over $200 for several consecutive months. I'm pretty good at limiting heat usage as others in my condo building use close to 50% more KW than I do.
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I haven't lived in an "electric provider choice" area since I left in Houston in 2006, but for grins I looked at some of the plans in various parts of Texas where I have lived (within the city limits here and in our last town, we were locked into municipal utilities but outside the city limits in that zip code you can sometimes choose your provider). Most of them were in the 8 to 11 cent range depending on level of usage and whether you went with the renewable options.

What struck me is the trend toward monthly *surcharges* of as much as $15 per month for using less than (say) 1,000 kWh a month. And yet all we hear is "conserve, conserve, conserve" -- and you are penalized like this for conserving? (One company says "no surcharge BUT you get a $30 credit if you use more than 1,000 kWh in a month. They just increase the base rate and it's a stealth surcharge of $30 per month!)
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What struck me is the trend toward monthly *surcharges* of as much as $15 per month for using less than (say) 1,000 kWh a month. And yet all we hear is "conserve, conserve, conserve" -- and you are penalized like this for conserving? (One company says "no surcharge BUT you get a $30 credit if you use more than 1,000 kWh in a month. They just increase the base rate and it's a stealth surcharge of $30 per month!)
It's because it's no longer about economics but politics. It's other people trying to change your behavior to fit with how they think things should be.
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How much do you pay per KWH? Texas is deregulated, so we have wide range of options...
Not entirely true. Many parts of Texas do not benefit from deregulation. Where I live, the local municipality owns and operates the local utility company. We have no choice of providers. My last bill was $0.103 per kWh. That's a decent rate, but I've always wondered why it's more than most of the for-profit companies that sell power in the de-regulated areas.
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It's because it's no longer about economics but politics. It's other people trying to change your behavior to fit with how they think things should be.
Not sure what you mean -- if it were about politics instead of economics, we'd be seeing the **opposite** of what I described above.

And nothing I said was intending to be political and I hope no one feels a need to "go there" now.
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Not sure what you mean -- if it were about politics instead of economics, we'd be seeing the **opposite** of what I described above.

And nothing I said was intending to be political and I hope no one feels a need to "go there" now.
I'm just saying that when politics gets mixed up in a product, things get distorted and to try to fix some of those distortions, they add in various surcharges and such. Companies have to bring in enough money to stay in business on way or another.
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I also live in Texas and just signed a 3 yr contract for 9.6 cents/kwh. There is an additional charge of $10 for any month where I use less than 1000 kwh. Last year there were 3 months when I used less than 1000.

There is a $250 charge to break the contract unless you move from the location where the power is provided.
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I am always shocked to see how cheap electricity costs elsewhere. We pay through the nose here on Long Island.
. . . If I were to use the entire bill which includes basic charges and some other small charges, I paid 22.0 cents per kwh.
Me too. Here in Connecticut, I'm paying 24.57 cents per kwh. That's the total monthly bill, including a $16.52 fixed basic service charge, divided by the kwh for the month.
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Here in warm Southern California I just got the bill today: $158 for 776 kWh = about $0.20 per kWh. Looking at the bill even in the lowest "tier" pricing is still $0.15 so we don't aren't getting excessively reamed by the higher rates of the upper tiers - simply by the raw power requirements of our A/C unit - which I keep at 77 during the day and about 70 at night.

In comparison we pay about 25% of this during the winter months.
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