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Old 07-23-2006, 06:58 AM   #1
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I searched and couldnít find a thread on this?

I would like to hear the best books and resources on FIRE, Asset Allocation, Investing, Index Funds, Value Investing, etc.

Which books have stood out and made a real impact on your FIRE?
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Re: FIRE Recommended Reading List
Old 07-23-2006, 09:29 AM   #2
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On investing I'd recommend:
- The Four Pillars of Investment
- A Random Walk Down Wall Street
- All About Asset Allocation
- The Only Guide To A winning Investment Strategy You'll Ever Need

On retirement:
- Work Less, Live More
- Get A Life, You Don't Need A Million to Retire Well
- How To Retire Early and Live Well

...and I expect that SG's upcoming ER book will be excellent based on his contributions to the various ER forums over the years.

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Add 'the millionaire next door' and I think you've got your hands full. Wasnt there one called 'the wealthy barber' that some folks liked?

Note that TMND and TFPOI are PhD written and they like to lay on the data nice and thick before telling you the conclusions, so 'driver/driver' types will go slightly mad reading them, which analytics will delight. Fortunately there are chapter summaries, so once your eyes start glazing over you can skip to the point.

I think one of the other books Cb mentioned was Bernsteins work prior to TFPOI and its a tough read. TFPOI was supposed to be a follow on that explained it so that people without fourteen degrees in economics and finance could get through it with their brains intact.
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Old 07-23-2006, 10:23 AM   #4
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CFB...Allah Bout Assett Allocation was written by Rick Ferri.

The Bernstein book you're thinking of was The Intelligent Asset Allocator. I was kinda intimidated by the title myself and haven't read it. :P Ferri's book is a nice EZ step-by-step guide to building a well diversified portfolio.

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Don't forget: Your Money or Your Life!

..probably one of the first "finance" books I read that talked about priorities, psychology and motivation instead of just what rates to expect on T-bills and describing what a mutual fund is. A lot of people here seem to have read and recommended it as well. Though it is drastic, the principals are sound (are you making a "living".. or making a "dying"?).
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Old 07-23-2006, 11:38 AM   #6
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One of my fy favorites is "The Richest Man in Babylon"* by George S. Clason.* This is particularly good for young people or for anyone who doesn't yet "get it".

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/045...672155?ie=UTF8

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I've also got these on my list from various posts here:

The Intelligent Investor Rev Ed. by Benjamin Graham
Stocks for the Long Run by Jeremy J. Siegel

I would also add "The Four Laws of Debt Free Prosperity" by Blaine Harris and Charles Coonradt
This was the first finance book I read back in 1998, great stuff on LBYM.

I ordered Work Less, Live More last week and saw 4 Pillars at the library.
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The Coffeehouse Investor
http://www.bookmasters.com/marktplc/01369.htm
is always a good one to recommend. Small, short. The message is simple, but he spends time convincing the reader of the truth of it.
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I agree with all of the previous books listed. I have read them all and agree. I would add any of the 3 books that John Bogle wrote to the list.

I'm currently reading Unconventional Success by Swensen. As I have not finished it yet, I would be hard pressed to recommend it. Since I have read 184 pages, I can easily recommend the first half of the book though.
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I would also recommend the Kaderli's e-book: The Adventurers Guide to Early Retirement found at http://retireearlylifestyle.com/

Billy and Akaisha post here often and are a great source of information and motivation for those of us interested in retiring overseas or doing the perpetual traveller thing.
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Both the Vanguard Die-Hards site and Bob Brinker's web site have pretty good recommended reading lists.

I think that it was Bernstein that recommended reading about market history, speculative booms, etc to give you a perspective for when Dot-com type situations come along. *I suspect that is particularly worth while if you want to try to actively manage you investments and beat the market versus a more passive asset allocation/index funds approach.

I'm currently reading Devil Take the Hindmost and it is recommeded on the Die-Hards site.

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I agree with all of the previous books listed. I have read the all and agree. I would add any of the 3 books that John Bogle wrote to the list.
Common Sense on Mutual Funds is a must read. It drives home the fallacy of many actively managed mutual funds, talking about true costs these funds incur and their effects on performance.
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What I have learned from some of the books from the reading list:
-- Live below your means.
-- Start savings early becuase compound return makes a big difference.
-- Invest in low cost funds.
-- Diversify among non-correlated assets. You can start with just 4 funds: Total Stock Market Fund, Total Bond Market Fund, Total International Fund, Money-Market Fund.
-- Reduce equity exposure as retirement is near.
-- Resist the temptation to time the market unless valuation is out of wack.
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Both the Vanguard Die-Hards site and Bob Brinker's web site have pretty good recommended reading lists.

I think that it was Bernstein that recommended reading about market history, speculative booms, etc to give you a perspective for when Dot-com type situations come along. *I suspect that is particularly worth while if you want to try to actively manage you investments and beat the market versus a more passive asset allocation/index funds approach.

I'm currently reading Devil Take the Hindmost and it is recommeded on the Die-Hards site.

MB
I think this came from the die-hards site:

The Bogleheads' Guide to Investing

Any reviews on this one??
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:26 AM   #16
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My choices would be -

The Wealthy Barber by Chilton
Four Pillars of Investing by Bernstein (efficentfrontier.com)
Commonsense on Mutual Funds by Bogle (vanguard.com, related sites)
JK Lassers Your Winning Retirement by Hebeler (analyzenow.com)

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Intelligent Investor by Graham
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I think that it was Bernstein that recommended reading about market history, speculative booms, etc to give you a perspective for when Dot-com type situations come along. I suspect that is particularly worth while if you want to try to actively manage you investments and beat the market versus a more passive asset allocation/index funds approach.
Agreed. Reading history of market inanity would be the next best thing to living through it (and probably costs less!) I lived in Japan during the bubble there, and the sheer craziness for a newcomer kept me out of it. I was also there when the bubble popped. Much weeping and gnashing of teeth,,,

When the dotcom bubble came along here a few years later, my Japanese experience let me be very confident about what to do (create and sell equity as opposed to buying it).

By now I think a generation who have lived through the dotcom crash will have a hard time getting suckered into the next stock bubble, but maybe I am too optimistic...
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I think this came from the die-hards site:

The Bogleheads' Guide to Investing

Any reviews on this one??
I read it a month ago. The book serves as a good guide of how to invest and save money for long term growth. LBYM, Investment costs matter, taxes, portfolio asset allocation basics/diversification, simplifying investing. I would recommend it to someone who is getting started in investing and would like to learn more. It is written more for a novice or beginner investor (they explain things well). I enjoyed it though and didn't feel like it was condescending towards me (as an "intermediate" level investor ). Each chapter is very short and concise with a paragraph or two of "recap" at the end of each chapter to drive home the main points of the chapter.

The writing style is a little lighter and more entertaining than what you would expect from a book on investing.

I have been looking for a good book on investing to recommend to others who are at the "beginner" or non-investor stages. This book is it. It doesn't focus on early retirement investing as much as some of the other books I have read, therefore it is more appropriate as a general educational book on investing for the "unenlightened" (those who want to work till 65, but invest along the way).

This would be a good book to buy as a christmas gift for recent college grads who you want to let in on the secret of investing in an accessible manner.

PsyopRanger, this might be a good book for you to read if you haven't read much on the subject of index fund investing, pitfalls of actively managed funds, low cost investing, etc. Parts of the book may be overly simplistic (ie - to save money, spend less than you earn (duh!)). It is a quick read. If you like the book and the style of investing presented, then there are a number of more detailed follow-up books that will present the investing style in more detail (common sense on mutual funds, 4 pillars, intelligent asset allocator).

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I searched this website forum for Brinker and your posting is one of the few I could easily find. I am 57 as well...Brinker fan for over a decade...I use the On Demand feature to listen to his programs,usually tune out Flanagan,but am very conservative and presently 50% SPY@123 and 50% Prime MM...I have earned a Phd listening to this guy and plan to continue until he signs off....do know of any regular Brinker online? forums?
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