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Old 01-08-2009, 11:57 AM   #41
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That might be one of my new favorite quotes! I love it...except I don't have any myself. But I was told in my youth by a friend that I walked like I had a pair!
Hey Kid, you are still in your youth. Love it!

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That might be one of my new favorite quotes! I love it...except I don't have any myself. But I was told in my youth by a friend that I walked like I had a pair!
Oh, we women have them too. Steven Colbert calls them "Thatchers." That's probably not what Joan of Arc, Queen Elizabeth I, and Ghengis Khan's mother called theirs, but it works for me.
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Hey I like that, Urchina! Thatchers!
That is a lot better than....(psssst....can you say it here during the family hour?)...snatchers....
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Oh, we women have them too. Steven Colbert calls them "Thatchers." That's probably not what Joan of Arc, Queen Elizabeth I, and Ghengis Khan's mother called theirs, but it works for me.
A few years ago I read a really interesting book, Heroes, Rogues, and Lovers by James McBride Dabbs and Mary Godwin Dabbs. He is a social psychologist at Georgia State University..

Here is a review- http://www.nytimes.com/books/00/10/0...kert.html?_r=1

Anyway, as I remember, although men in general make much more testosterone than women, women's tissues seem to be quite a bit more sensitive to small amounts. So as long as women are getting a supply, mostly ovarian I think and perhaps adrenal also, their whole self and behavior is to a greater or lesser degree influenced by T, just as is true for men.

He went around asking people for saliva samples to map higher and lower testosterone levels in men and women. Probably not the greatest science, but interesting nonetheless.

In both men and women, he found higher T associated with risk taking, pushing limits, and sexuality.

So likely when Colbert refers to a woman's Thatchers, he is right functionally.

As an aside, maybe Sarah or other South Carolinians could tell me whether this author is a son of James McBride Dabbs from Sumter Co, SC, the aristocrat and author who was a prominent civil rights advocate?

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As an aside, maybe Sarah or other South Carolinians could tell me whether this author is a son of James McBride Dabbs from Sumter Co, SC, the aristocrat and author who was a prominent civil rights advocate?
I'm not necessarily from SC, but, from wikipedia:

James M. Dabbs, Jr. (1937-2004) was a Social Psychologist and Professor of Psychology at Georgia State University.[1] [2]Born in 1937 in Sumter, South Carolina, he obtained his doctorate from Yale in 1962. In 2004, he died from cancer.


He was the son of James McBride Dabbs, well known author and prominent southern liberal during the age of segregation.
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Sarah and Urchina,

You, of course, have what the "Wife of Bath" called her "bele chose" (pretty thing). There is great value in that.

(My favorite quote from the Wife of Bath, BTW, is: "Forbede us thyng, and that desiren we")

Oh! I seem to have hi-jacked my thread again.
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Sarah and Urchina,

You, of course, have what the "Wife of Bath" called her "bele chose" (pretty thing). There is great value in that.
Sailing pretty close to the rocks, eh matey?
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Yes.

The rest of us are admiring a professional who's working her craft (and her audience). She's writing to evoke a reaction, right? What else would she do-- post her old tax returns and her new budget spreadsheets?
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My favorite part is that I can't quite tell if it is a lampoon. It makes me almost laugh. It isn't a good enough lampoon to quite do that, but it's in the neighborhood.

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I also read her three pages. I feel like this is a good example of something that I would call "perhaps truthful, but maybe a real good example of great fiction writing". Just because you read it on the internet does not make it factual....especially in a blog.
It seems like these days, even professional journalists get caught up in reading blogs and reporting that as "news" in primetime.
This lady might be all that she says she is, but maybe then she is only a really good fiction writer too.
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Another good read on this subject is "Bitter is the new black " and why to never take a Prada bag to the unemployment office.
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This could be her FIRST real hard knock moment in her life. Pretty good for someone in her 50's.............
Ever hear the expression, "the best preparation for failure is success"?

Not sure I agree with it, do you?
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Not sure I agree with it, do you?
Not really. When I think of someone who overcame a lot of failure, the name Abraham Lincoln comes to mind...........
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something that I would call "perhaps truthful, but maybe a real good example of great fiction writing".
Of course it is fiction but perhaps only to us. I suspect that she believes every word of it. Or as that well used quote from Rabbie Burns says so well:

"O wad the Power the giftie give us
To see ourselves as others see us!

It wad frae monie a blunder free us,
an foolish notion."

(To a Louse - paragraph 8)

Or perhaps more to the point is the question that has been asked since humans began speaking (or before?) -- the most well-known version is "What is truth?" by Pontius Pilate in John 18:38.
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I read about her again today.

I read another article on her again this morning. I was at w**k and can't seem to find it now but it was a news article about her and it quoted her blog in the "news" article on how she was a victim.
It almost makes me wonder why she is in the limelight. I sense that she is a "promoter" of herself and is doing a good job at it.
I'm sure there are other victims out there who aren't seeking the spotlight of self promotion.
On the otherhand my 401K is down 35% too and I can sympathize with her but I don't think I would have done what she did as an investor.
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I read another article on her again this morning. I was at w**k and can't seem to find it now but it was a news article about her and it quoted her blog in the "news" article on how she was a victim.
It almost makes me wonder why she is in the limelight. I sense that she is a "promoter" of herself and is doing a good job at it.
I'm sure there are other victims out there who aren't seeking the spotlight of self promotion.
On the otherhand my 401K is down 35% too and I can sympathize with her but I don't think I would have done what she did as an investor.
Was it this article?

Life savings gone, 'Madoffed' best-selling writer back at work - CNN.com
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I'm guessing that's it. Looks like the blog she wrote got quite a reaction:

Penney is not asking anyone to feel sorry for her, especially after the acid-response to her first-hand account of her financial woes in a blog called "The Bag Lady Papers" on TheDailyBeast.com. In the blog, she talks about selling the cottage and possibly more real estate and taking her first subway ride in 30 years. She's even considered selling some of her expensive jewelry to pay the bills.

Some readers blasted her as a privileged New York princess. They told her to get a job. Others said they didn't feel sorry for her. Penney says she was surprised by the "vitriol."
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Yes that is the article I was referring to.
And it all started with a "blog" that turned into "news".
Most probably instigated by the best-selling writer herself.
And her resume' grows........
Maybe it will work and she is getting job offers from all corners of the country. Maybe she got monthly checks from Madoff that exceeded what she says she lost too.
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This board loves to bash some poor dumb schmuck who has always been a poor dumb schmuck.

But I guess Penny or whatever her name is gets some points since she was once on top.

Not from me. Let her use skills gained in researching and writing "Making love to a man" to find and capture a sugar daddy.

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Well, writing about it and doing it are two different things. I find that watching plenty of porn doesn't make me a better lover.
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I find that watching plenty of porn doesn't make me a better lover.
Take someone into the booth with you.
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I understand her bitterness. However, in her search for sympathy and empathy she is going overboard. I read in her bio her mom is Greek royalty and her dad was a Harvard physician. She grew up in a tony WASP neighborhood in Connecticut.

This could be her FIRST real hard knock moment in her life. Pretty good for someone in her 50's.........

I have already lost track of how many times reality and life have dealt me serious blows, and I'm younger than her.......
Never under-estimate how out of touch these suburban Connecticut WASP types can be. My last boss disappeared for 6-8 months from work and showed up one day to eat lunch and to complain about mega-corp's talent retention bonuses. Sorry, but mega-corp doesn't offer complimentary country club memberships.
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She still has three very pricey pieces of real estate that if sold would bring her enough to have a decent life style . Maybe not the one she enjoys now but certainly more luxurious than a lot of our lifestyles .
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