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Old 04-12-2011, 04:49 PM   #61
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Amazon.com: When You Ride Alone You Ride with Bin Laden: What the Government Should Be Telling Us to Help Fight the War on Terrorism (9781893224742): Bill Maher: Books

This must have been based on that AD. They are too similar to not be.
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Why is that as soon as Hitler is mentioned in a thread, a pig video is next?
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Wasn't intended to bring on the pig. Was merely to illustrate history in advertising .. interesting.. the deja vu about a call for car pooling back then and more recently
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Of course they will, always do. However, they also will climb again. And each time they go down, they don't go down as far, and yet when they spike, they seem to spike higher each time.

There isn't nearly as much screaming going on as we start to hit $4/gallon as there was last time.
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One SIL, a recently retired nurse, calls it a "donorcycle".
I used to work with two guys who were always twitting each other. One was a motorcycle enthusiast who taught motorcycle safety classes, etc. He put a bumper sticker on his desk that read "Look for Motorcyclists." The other wag wrote just underneath, "Then Run Over Them."

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Yes, I'm becoming more conscious of the many small errands I do throughout the week. I'm going to start taking the bus more since I have a pass. It's inconvenient but I think gas prices are probably going to stay high and go higher eventually, so I might as well get used to using other kinds of transportation. I might get a bike this summer too.

Also, I have read that rising gas prices are a result of the devaluing of our dollar. Since oil is paid for in dollars, the oil producers raise their prices to recapture the same value.
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In short, they drive like everyone is "out to get them".
But for me, that would take the joy out of it. I like to ride too, but have decided that I would only ride the trails through the forest with my dirt bike.

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Yes, I am careful and even drive my motor home as if people were "out to get me". The difference, however, is that if one succeeds in "getting me", he is gonna getting hurt more than I do, hopefully.
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Same here. The only problem I do see (as a retiree) is the increase in purchased products due to increased transport costs for the manufacturer/distributor.

That will drive up my personal rate of inflation for the products I actually buy.
Same here. Even with gas at $4 a gallon, I will spend about $500 a year on it with my car which gets good gas mileage and low miles driven. So even if it goes up 10% to $4.40 a gallon, I would spend $550 a year, barely a blip in my budget.

It is the price increase built into stuff I buy which concerns me more.
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Our gas bill should go down some now that DH is done with his RT. We put 1400 miles on the car for his treatments alone.

I don't see us making any changes.
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This is an interesting topic. Our two cars are "capable" of 25mpg. each. If I drive, that's about what we get. If DW drives, it's more like 21. She learned to drive in a "kiddy kar" so if she isn't pushing a pedal, she doesn't think she's driving.

Still, we use about 40 gal./month, so the run up from $2.25/gal in 2008 to $4.35/gal in 2011 hasn't changed our lives appreciably. The real problem is the rising cost of all the goods we purchase. Living on an island as we do means virtually everything is imported - using oil to propel the ship (or aircraft). Our local inflation has been dramatic, even though the official US inflation rate has been quite tame (another discussion).

I've always been quite conservative in driving - both number of trips and driving style. I don't know how I could raise our mpg much (other than to do all the driving) and we rarely just get in the car for "fun". Obviously, at some price point, we would simply cut out many trips we now do for convenience.

The folks I feel sorriest for are the families (some I know of) which scatter 3 or 4 drivers daily to different w*rk places, commuting 25+ miles each way. Their family (household) fuel usage could easily exceed 250 gal/month. Since most of their driving is for w*rk, it's less optional than for many people. While we have a good bus system, commuting by bus can double the commute time from 2 hours/day to 4. W*rking isn't optional, so it can become a real problem to w*rking families as fuel prices rise.
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We're not changing much about our driving habits. I still have a led foot and probably always will.
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Our (really DW's) new Honda CRV does not get the mileage as stated on the sticker. It's averaging about 23 overall. I'll garantee you that if I did all the driving, it would be getting 26 or 27 mpg. Why? DW's driving habits. Not that she drives fast, rather from a dead stop she wants it going 35-40mph right now. Too much lead foot from the light or stop sign. I like to drive by the tachometer, never letting the needle go over 3000rpm. An expert once said, drive as if there is an egg between your foot and the accelerator. In DW's case, there would be scrambled eggs all over the floor mats. I don't say much as she gets irritated and stays pi**ed the rest of the day. For the miles we drive in a year, it's not worth the bother. I'm not going to change her.
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So we have 75 posts, mostly by folks who are (at least) millionaires. The vast majority include bellyaching and handwringing over what amounts to something like $50 a month of incremental expense which can largely be avoided by said posters if they wish. I wonder what this thread would sound like to the average Merkin?
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So we have 75 posts, mostly by folks who are (at least) millionaires. The vast majority include bellyaching and handwringing over what amounts to something like $50 a month of incremental expense which can largely be avoided by said posters if they wish.
Hey! If we had wanted beevercheeze with our whine we would have ordered it!
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-WE just consolidate our Trips better..
-Cut other Luxuries to accomidate..
-and Aggravate our State Leaders to Institute a Extra Tax for Those who Are Running Gas Guzzlers..( Private Cars/Boats/Private AirPlanes,etc)
I think the rest of us are subcidizing them .. Just like The Big Homes using Twice the Energy ..Why should they be paying the same Price per Gal/KW/BTU as the rest of us?
Just another form of Dem. Socialisum.. Like the Cable TV racket..
and Get all New Homes to be built with 6" walls and min ave. of R 40..and 20% sell Powered.. by Windmills or Solar..

Paul Ryan & Rush Limbaugh Agree...!

Got a Modified -Local Street legal -Nat. Gas Powered Golf Cart- with side curtains and use it 9 mos yr.. for local trips.. ave 50 mpg.. & Use a Elec. Fishing Trooling Mtr on our Pontoon Boat past 3 yrs.. Use only ave of 1 tank (10 gal) of gas a yr on it eversince..
-Got a Mini Windmill. for the house. @ 200 watt hr..
-Using CFL's...
-Took off Inside Sheet rock, add 2x2's , extended The Walls to 6" and Added new High Density Foam Insulaiton, = R-40 walls , R 60 attic and back to Adding Sliding Storm windows ...cut energy use by 38% last yr.. saved over $900., ought to break even in 4 yrs at that rate.. sooner as rates go up.. and they will.

Get our Cigs from overseas.. Save $150/mo..

Hope the New "Bloom Box" power system as seen on 60 min. Show works as it says.. Could put everyother Green Energy system out of business, inlcuding Nukes..

If the Power & Oil Co.'s don't buy him out and Keep it off the market..
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So we have 75 posts, mostly by folks who are (at least) millionaires. The vast majority include bellyaching and handwringing over what amounts to something like $50 a month of incremental expense which can largely be avoided by said posters if they wish. I wonder what this thread would sound like to the average Merkin?
That is what I find so interesting. It seems to me a much larger group complains than the number of people that will actually do something about it.
People have complete control over:
driving aggressively or efficiently (10-15%)
Checking the inflation in their tires (2-4%)
car selection when driving (0-100%)
Combining trips/car pooling (25-40%)

Yet most people that complain blame the government, OPEC, or some grand conspiracy
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