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Old 03-17-2011, 10:16 AM   #41
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:21 PM   #42
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OK, since you asked....

This is what I purchased last week. It's a 2500HD diesel (397 hp, 765 ft lbs of torque) crew cab and gets 19+ mpg on the road. It will pull a 13,000 lb ball-hitch trailer or a 16,700 lb 5th wheel. I've been a Ford truck guy to this point (sold my 13 year old F150 to buy the Silverado) but went with the Chevy due to several factors, including more power, better discounts (I had $2K in GM card credits) and greater mpg.

As always, YMMV.
Alright, REW, Since you started it...

I'll raise your 19MPG to 19.2 AND... I'm using Gas at $3.57* vs Diesel at $3.91*

Granted, I can't pull a heavy trailer like you can, but I don't need to.

YMMV (literally, in this case)

*( US Energy Information Administration, 3-14-2011, US Nat'l Averages)
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I'll raise your 19MPG to 19.2...
I should've taken that photo Sunday after we got home from a road trip when it read 19.8. That trip into town yesterday really hosed (tanked?) my mileage.
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You guys crack me up, braggin' on MPG below 20!
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You guys crack me up, braggin' on MPG below 20!
Hey, we're driverin' real 'Merkin Iron, not a miniature "Green" Asian gas/electric/solar/wind/cooking grease/Li-Ion/hydrogen/algae/moonshine/methane/pedal car...
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Hey, we're driverin' real 'Merkin Iron, not a miniature "Green" Asian gas/electric/solar/wind/cooking grease/pedal car...
They make 'em smaller. But you have to wear the fez, everybody knows that the fez improves MPG!

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I have a Honday Odyssey, at 4700 pounds, I think it fits the mold of "Merkin Iron". Funny, when DW drives it, she struggles to get 18 overall. When I drive it, I get 21 average. Of course she is a leadfoot. I went to SC in that beast and got 25.8 average for the trip, not complaining. yeah, my little Asian riceburner is spoiling me, though..........
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What is price for diesel compared to gasoline over there?
In most of Europe, diesel is typically about 30c/USgal cheaper than gasoline. (The only country I can think of immediately where it's a little more expensive (10c/gal) is the UK.)

Combined with the better mileage and - especially - the advances in 4-cylinder turbodiesel engines over the last few years, this explains why in France, for example, around 80% of new cars sold are diesels.

15 years ago, a typical compact sedan would be available with a 1.4 or 1.6 litre gasoline engine, or a 2 litre diesel producing slightly fewer bhp than the 1.4. Today, there'll be 2 or 3 diesels and maybe only one gasoline engine choice. (Gas is, however, predicted to hold its own for smaller cars over the next few years, as it's hard to meet new emission norms with a 1.2 litre diesel.)

My Hyundai iX35 was launched with just one engine choice in France, a 2.0 litre diesel. They just added a 1.7 litre diesel and a 1.6 litre gas engine, which I'm guessing is insufficient for what is quite a heavy car. The 2.0 litre diesel develops 136 bhp with the manual gearbox, and 184 bhp with the automatic (they put bigger injectors in). This last version also has 392 Nm of torque, which is about the same as the gasoline engine in some Ferrari models; making an automatic gearbox which can handle that in a reasonably-priced car is quite a challenge.
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I have a Honday Odyssey, at 4700 pounds, I think it fits the mold of "Merkin Iron". Funny, when DW drives it, she struggles to get 18 overall. When I drive it, I get 21 average. Of course she is a leadfoot. I went to SC in that beast and got 25.8 average for the trip, not complaining. yeah, my little Asian riceburner is spoiling me, though..........
...a minivan does not a truck make... (well, maybe if you wear snakeskin Tony Lama boots and a big ole Resistol cowboy hat while driving it... BTW, this thread is USELESS without pics...)
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OK, since you asked....

This is what I purchased last week. It's a 2500HD diesel (397 hp, 765 ft lbs of torque) crew cab and gets 19+ mpg on the road. It will pull a 13,000 lb ball-hitch trailer or a 16,700 lb 5th wheel. I've been a Ford truck guy to this point (sold my 13 year old F150 to buy the Silverado) but went with the Chevy due to several factors, including more power, better discounts (I had $2K in GM card credits) and greater mpg.

As always, YMMV.
Nice truck! Great mileage, too. Now we need photos of the 5th wheel. And what kind of mileage does it get towing it?
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Now we need photos of the 5th wheel.
OK...but they all kinda look the same.

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Now we need photos of the 5th wheel. And what kind of mileage does it get towing it?
TBD. The RV is still at the dealer. I'm having a second A/C unit installed 'cause it gets might hot in TX - but ya'll already knew that...

I'm hoping for 12 but expecting 10. Either way it will be an improvement over the 7.5 - 8 I got in the bus.
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OK...but they all kinda look the same.
Oh.... Some of us (me, namely) didn't know that. So OK, that's what it looks like. Looks roomy and nice. Does it have all the plush upgrades like granite countertops and so on, like I have been hearing about?

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TBD. The RV is still at the dealer. I'm having a second A/C unit installed 'cause it gets might hot in TX - but ya'll already knew that...
Now THAT is something I knew. I've never been hotter than in College Station in the summer, without a drop of rain. That heat bearing down can be just withering.

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I'm hoping for 12 but expecting 10. Either way it will be an improvement over the 7.5 - 8 I got in the bus.
Great! Good move, given the consensus in our poll above that we think gas prices will be around $5/gallon for the next few years.

You know, when you get a new RV it is virtually required that you go on a long trip to test it out.
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While the two cars I drive get poor mileage (12-15 mpg) and have small V-8's (both 4.6; one Ford, one GM) the increase in fuel expense dosen't impact me at all.

I filled my Mustang two weeks ago, the first time it's been filled since October (used less than 1K last year).

I fill the Cadillac (SRX) on average, just once a month or so (driven just over 4K last year).

We never use the cars for road trips; all usage is short city trips, so I could not even tell what kind of mileage I would get on the highway.

Just a different way to limit fuel costs ...
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I just dont get it. A VW polo tdi in UK and Australia gets 73/79 miles per gallon. The festiva there also has a tdi option that gets over 80 mile per gallon. Best we can do here is 42 mpg.

why would anybody want a hybrid? Just give us the tdi's.


I want to know why we can't get it here.
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Governmental/Industrial conspiracy. The import licensing is locked up in a vault with the 200mpg carburetor, the perpetual motion machine, Bigfoot, and the magic pumpkin that turns lead into gold.
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I want to know why we can't get it here.
Probably because these manufacturers can make more selling all they manufacture in Europe (tiny cars fetch a lot more money there than here). Also, I don't know if they can pass US crash tests. VW was reportedly getting one of their TDI models crash tested in the US in 2008, maybe things didn't go well.
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Does it have all the plush upgrades like granite countertops and so on, like I have been hearing about?
This one is more middle of the road (speaking figuratively, of course.) Fewer "plushes" than the fancy rigs - no granite, central vac system or heated marble floors - but real wood cabinets and a decent insulation package.

There really isn't much counter space in the kitchen as you can see. DW asked the RV sales guy if he had one with no kitchen at all...
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Governmental/Industrial conspiracy. The import licensing is locked up in a vault with the 200mpg carburetor, the perpetual motion machine, Bigfoot, and the magic pumpkin that turns lead into gold.
Serious. Check the link 3.7l per 100km. Thats 73+ mpg. Long term tests they were doing 3.0l per 100km.

This is real my sister drives one in Australia.

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