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Old 02-23-2005, 05:29 PM   #21
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Sorry - subway is only in the Manhattan and boroughs of Queens, Brookyn & Bronx - NJ, Westchester County, NY and Fairfield County, CT - only train.

Further out - you can take the bus - but it takes at least 1 and 1/2 hours each way.

NYC is still a beautiful lady and misses you!

We're going to see "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf" on Broadway in May. For us, it's 50 minutes by train each way.

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Old 02-23-2005, 05:36 PM   #22
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Mikey!

Holy cow! You guys have a lot of acres! I am jealous! Where do you live with so much elbow room? Here on the East Coast, its wall to wall people! If I started shooting my Charter Arms Bulldog .44 I would be in trouble right quick.

btw...if you visit NYC anytime soon, leave the H-K home and put your trust in the machine-gun (H-K's also) weilding cops all over the city now.

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Haha, I wish! It just happens that there is large plot of state land right behind me. So with a very good backstop, and umpteen thousand trees, and essentially no people anyway, I feel safe enough. Still with I had bought the piece alongside with a deep canyon.

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We're going to see "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf" on Broadway in May. *For us, it's 50 minutes by train each way.Sparky
Sparky, that sounds perfect. My son just got back from a couple of weeks in NY, and he really has me fantasizing. Last time I lived there was summer 1965. I sublet a place on Bleeker Street from a friend who went to Europe.

I saw "Who's Afraid" in Boston in fall of '64 I think. I was coming to the end of a love and an older women in my building offered to take me. (She would seem wonderfully young to me now!) Anyway, listening to George and Martha bicker for 2 hours almost did me in. I still remember that it gave me an awful stomach ache. When I saw the movie later it wasn't nearly as powerful. Or maybe I just remembered to have a drink before I went.

Anyhow, have fun and thanks for the info re subways.

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I live in north Michigan, I made my back stops when I built my house, when I rented the bobcat to landscape, I ran it to the field I shoot in and mounded up some dirt, then stacked some railroad ties in front.
then built a 8x8 roofed shooters shack,
with bench and deck.
nice when it is raining.
I have to many guns, but cant get rid of any. my newest is a Sauer 38h Nazi marked, and a Beretta 92fs
it came with 2 high cap mags.
I have a Taurus 92 stainless steel but it just was not a Beretta. lol
I have been collecting guns [my main hobbies] since I was 14 yo. I just gave up radio controlled flying and sold all my planes. to focus on the guns aspect.
I also reload my own ammo. I enjoy that as much as shooting.
We also have had for a few years now in Michigan, a shall issue ccw. I just renewed my lic. and now it is good for 5 years.
I have taken my gun on planes [stowaway only] and carried in states that rec. my ccw. key west, George, Louisiana, now I can drive all the way to fla. with out unstraping.
my carry gun is a firestorm 380, these little guns are very high quality, = to a walther/hsc that they copy. and all for 198, I use an under the arm shoulder holster.
I never thought we would get the law through here. being a liberal Mecca in Wayne county, Oakland, and the like run the state. you get past sag. and bay city, and it is all red baby. btw, john gault,, I am with you, even though I am an atheist, I still go repub. just cant stand the we know best what is good for you, don't cut trees,don't eat meat or wear fur, hunting is bad, and if some one want to rape you call the cops you cant protect yourself, among other crap liberal ideas.
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Well, ed teach, you sound like my kind of guy

Between myself, my Dad, and my son, at one time we
could have armed a small country (or at least a
revolution). We all have less firepower now, but still enough. BTW, having lived in Michigan for many years
I was very surprised that CC went through. Very happy to see it although it doesn't help me personally.
I am currently stuck in "gun hater" central.

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I still go repub. just cant stand the we know best what is good for you, don't cut trees,don't eat meat or wear fur, hunting is bad, and if some one want to rape you call the cops you cant protect yourself, among other crap liberal ideas.
These are not liberal ideas. It is the pablum that GOP has fed you guys, so they can take away your real rights.

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Handguns are for Hookers and Cops. Real men own rifles - at least thats what my dear old Dad used to say when I was young.

That said - I'm a liberal Democrat with a shotgun, black powder rifle, blackpowrder pistol and a Fenwerkebau 124 air rifle.

And I be the first to admit that many gun control laws are as stupid as the Patriot Act(read dumb and ineffective}. Like the sky marshals after BD Cooper jumped out of the 727 and dented the plane market - hopefully there is a learning curve effect that will improve things over time.

If the D heads in Washington want to do a better job - they should enlist free enterprise - if the credit bueaus and marketing/polictical computers know who I am - why can't those stupid brain dead SOB's in government - after all I held security clearances for over twenty years.

Really a hot button issue with me - my 88 yr old mom went to cash some bonds recently - her drivers license was expired, also her passport and the jerk wad doctor in 1916 Michigan used the Finnish spelling instead of American on her birth certificate. Got them cashed eventually - but what a circle jerk. The shear stupidity of the Patriotic Act - down home and personal. I plan to volunteer next election to get those those brain dead - most of all INcompentant bums out next election. Unless they wise up and subcontract out to free enterprise businesses that know what they are doing.
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Well, I love handguns in all of their forms and models,
and would feel better if the hookers had more and the cops less. But, I digress

Unclemick, if you remove the "braindead dickheads"
they will just be replaced with more "braindead dickheads". That's the way it works.

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Old 02-24-2005, 06:05 AM   #30
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Second cup of coffee - I'm calmer now. *Alas - you're right - bureau -o - cracies have a life of their own.

Having been in large corporate ones (defense contractors) dealing with govt.(NASA), I suppose there are worse ones.

If I lay off the coffee - I'll make curmudgeon before my time. At eleven yrs ER - I get cranky and to think in youth - I probably were one( actually wrote tech spec.'s).
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Old 02-24-2005, 08:27 AM   #31
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I love my handguns also. Especially my colt 45 commander. I have a couple of S&W's. Love my 9/15. I have a ruger 22 to have fun with, and an sks with a 30 shot clip.
Here in the "free" state of Maryland, we cannot legally carry a wepon for self defense. Is it any wonder that Baltimore leds the nation in murders per capita. Thats what we get in a one party demo state.
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Well cut throat, I have a constitutional right to have and bear arms, the old second amendment, you don't have a constitutional right to fish, not that I want to take fishing rights away, I just think it funny how people are all up to take some ones right away [especially liberals] when it is something they don't care about, then they usually come back with the argument that the founding fathers did not envision ak 47s [I have 2 underfolder and full stock] well that is true, but they also did not envision T.V. movies, and the internet, so if liberals want my gun rights then we can limit the first amendment based on " the founding fathers did not envision" its a bad argument, the other big argument the libs use is the second amendment was for the national guard. this is the most laughable, there was no national guard when the bill of rights was written, and if you read the federalist papers by jay Madison and Hamilton then you will see that the bill of rights in its entirety was a instrument for the individual. classic lib trying to twist thing to their skewed view.
this is by far not the only writings of the founding fathers that show clearly the intent of the second amendment, the only people that say it is not are the libs ike Brady. and he is brain dead, and so is his wife. gun control goes hand in hand with the other big liberal issues, like no cutting in national forests, organic tofu, spotted owl habitat, no nukes, midnight basketball,mama Clinton knows best [it takes a liberal] and kwesie my stomach, the only thing I agree with the dems on is the tax relief for the small guy, but they have left the Truman, Roosevelt way of thinking back in the 60s, now it is the Hollywood elite that runs the show, with idiots like Ted danson, whoopee cushion,and other California nut jobs like phloosie, and fikenstine. you know they loose and loose and loose, and they just don't get it, the have lost mom and pop America, for the black America that wants reparations for slavery [what a crock, how many whites died for there freedom, people who never even owned a slave] and if my history is correct it was the dems, that started the kkk, and it was the rep's that fought to free the slaves in the first place, this is why for so many years the south was a dem strong hold.
now the south has learned that the dems do not have their best interest at heart, they are now the old 60's hate America and blame America first.
I am an atheist and do not agree with the rep's on every issue, but I sure think that they are the lesser of the two evils.
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Sigh ! - :

Brady worked for Reagan. Liberals do not want to take your guns.

Don't you think it would be nice to be an environmentalist, so that you had a place to hunt instead of the Wall Mart Parking Lot?
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This liberal -conservative thing is funny. If I remember correctly, before 2004 I only voted for one Democrat in a presidential election. That was JBJ in 1964.

Mostly the pre-Newt Gingrich Republicans didn't require such narrowmindedness to be a Repub. I was wrong about Bush; I voted for him once. But even a long time Republican voter can learn!

I don't like liberals either- they are just as manipulative and controlling as modern Republicans. They don't really like or understand or want to help ordinary people. They condescend to us. I actually heard an NPR broadcast wherein the interviewer was talking to the guy who wrote-I think- "What's Wrong With Kansas?"

They were just chortling and whooping it up aboput how dumb and unwashed the Republican voters are. They actually were discussing what lies Liberal Dems could tell to get elected, which they would just ignore once in power. The only hang-up was that it was feared that they would confuse their usual constiuency, who then might just stay home.

So both sides believe in deliberate lying to gain power.

But this Bush administartion as taken mendacity in the service of power-lust to a whole new level for the USA.

I have 2 sons, and I want both of them to attend my funeral. I think Bush is the biggest risk to that right now, since he appears to want a portfolio of wars. Maybe he figures diversification is good?

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I don't have a problem with guns in general - with one exception....In the great state of Texas, if you own at least 10 acres you can legally shoot (target practice) at anytime. This is fine unless you live next to one of the ignoramuses. I have 40 acres and that is not enough when someone is shooting a 30-06 all damn dat long. What a total pain-in-the-ass. I am in process of buying the 10 acres just to eliminate the problem - I don't really need anymore land (for cattle) but it is cheaper than moving. This is one of those laws that the "good ole boys" who do not want to offend the NRA types - think is OK. I would love for them to have to listen themselves. :
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I have people that live close, so I don't shoot before 9:30 or after 7:00, just good courtesy, as for liberals not wanting to take my guns? wow, you don't know your own party, when Feinstein says if "I had my way I would say mom and pop America, you are going to turn them all in" Schumer, Clinton, Kennedy, the list goes on and on. I don't think I have to work to hard to show that the true end of liberal gun control is to take guns from the "people"
They always start with "its just good commonsense" It is a camels nose under the tent, next thing you know you are sleeping with it.
as far as enviros go, no I don't agree them them, because the movement has been taken over by liberal idiots that are not conservationist's but anti establishment morons.
Greenpeace nuts that spike trees and protest every thing that does not grow on trees, they are radical idiots, and you people that drive SUV's and support the enviro movement, you are part of the problem according to the libs.
If the nut job liberals had their way we would all have bikes and one 40w light bulb. and a herb garden,
live in a commune, I am not so down on the free love, but my wife might not like it.
and we would not be taking the fishes lives, they have rights too. even catch and release is painful to the poor fish.
first it starts with hunting fringes like running bear with dogs, then you cant bait, then before you know it, the puma in California are killing the hikers, and the enviros response? well
"we are in their habitat, we are the invaders" maybe but if I have a ruger 44 mag on my hip, I can crack the dam skull of the puma before he can bit my ass.
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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!!
(Howard Dean-like scream) Go Ed Go!!!!

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Here in the "free" state of Maryland, we cannot legally carry a wepon for self defense. Is it any wonder that Baltimore leds the nation in murders per capita. Thats what we get in a one party demo state.
Well, if you are only going to use the one variable of whether you can carry handguns in public and compare it to the murder rate then the facts say that it doesn't help and in fact makes it worse. Look at countries that have very strict gun control laws such as Japan (or Singapore or Hong Kong) and the murder rate (and in fact overall crime rate is a fraction of any city in the US). So, to use your uni-factor measurement we come to the conclusion that gun control does reduce murder and crime in general.
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Look at countries that have very strict gun control laws such as Japan (or Singapore or Hong Kong) and the murder rate (and in fact overall crime rate is a fraction of any city in the US). *So, to use your uni-factor measurement we come to the conclusion that gun control does reduce murder and crime in general.
Helloooo When you walk down the street in Baltimore do you notice anything different from when you walk down the street in Singapore?

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Helloooo When you walk down the street in Baltimore do you notice anything different from when you walk down the street in Singapore?

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