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Old 08-14-2008, 01:56 PM   #261
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Ah, yes... the blessed LT1. What a wonderful motor. Those things are damn-neart bullet-proof.
I used to have a Buick Roadsmasher (Roadmaster) with the LT1 motor, darn beast got 26-27 mpg on the highway, and would squeal the tires. Plus, it was white with the "woodie" sides.........



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Is there a car that gets good mileage (over 30mpg) and is about the size of the mazda 5? I saw one and it's a great size, but same mpg as my pilot so not worth the loss in size or horses...

can someone ask toyota to make a prius that looks more like the mazda 5? the highlander is too big...(and expensive!)
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Is there a car that gets good mileage (over 30mpg) and is about the size of the mazda 5? I saw one and it's a great size, but same mpg as my pilot so not worth the loss in size or horses...

can someone ask toyota to make a prius that looks more like the mazda 5? the highlander is too big...(and expensive!)
?? The 2009 Mazda 5 gets 22 city/28 Hwy MPG (standard transmission, roughly 1 MPG less with auto). A 2009 Pilot gets: 17 MPG city, 23 MPG hwy mileage.

If you want a hybrid and like your Pilot, consider a Ford Escape hybrid. 33 MPG city, 30 MPG hwy.

I like the Mazda 5 also (cool "quart-in-a-pint-pot" design). I agree it might make an interesting hybrid for those wanting more room than a Prius offers.
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Is there a car that gets good mileage (over 30mpg) and is about the size of the mazda 5? I saw one and it's a great size, but same mpg as my pilot so not worth the loss in size or horses...
It's not really practical, but you could get a diesel Mazda 5 imported from Europe. Rated 46 mpg combined.
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The Honda Fit is a little smaller, but definitely 30+ mpg...........
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I used to have a Buick Roadsmasher (Roadmaster) with the LT1 motor, darn beast got 26-27 mpg on the highway, and would squeal the tires. Plus, it was white with the "woodie" sides.........]

That is big pimpin'!

The roadie wagon has a cult following, my man.
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That is big pimpin'!

The roadie wagon has a cult following, my man.
I think it could tow some stupid number like 5000 pounds or something...........

Mine had the chrome spoke wheels, if I had it today with 20" spinners, I would be stylin'............
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The Honda Fit is a little smaller, but definitely 30+ mpg...........
they are cute, but would not "fit" my family!
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It's not really practical, but you could get a diesel Mazda 5 imported from Europe. Rated 46 mpg combined.
that sounds amazing! i'd be really happy!
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that sounds amazing! i'd be really happy!
yeah, too bad the cost of shipping would be thousands of dollars, and you'll pay $.60 a gallon more for diesel than gas indefinitely, limiting the "gain" you seek............
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yeah, too bad the cost of shipping would be thousands of dollars, and you'll pay $.60 a gallon more for diesel than gas indefinitely, limiting the "gain" you seek............
aww, you've always got your reality goggles on!
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'Tis true... the correct beer goggles can make even a Mopar look purdy...
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Usually those only hurt 12 hours or so later............
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True. But, inconsistent with . . .



together with . . .


So, you expect your 2005 Matrix to have lost about 50% of its value by 2009. That's a big depreciation hit for these reliable, in-demand cars. As you say, they usually don't depreciate much.

Wait, here's the answer!



Dang it, don't be such a cheapskate! Take that car in for an oil change every three months and it will still have bearings and rings when it is 5 years old .

No charge for the helpful tip.

i drive less than 7500 miles a year so there is no reason to change the oil other than the every 6 months as stated in the manual.

and compared to something like a 2005 Impala that is about the same price new i retained a lot more value.

i would love to know a model that retains it's value better
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A new Accord was $23,500 at the time,I paid $15,500 3 years old with 34,000 miles...........

I think I'm ahead.thus far...............
what was your interest rate?


you could have bought a new Accord paid it off in 5 years and then every new Accord or something in a similar price range would only be around $13000 - $15000. then you can get a new car every 3-5 years at a nice discount and not have to worry about doing any of the expensive maintenance that comes up as you put miles on it. and it's always in warranty and the interest rate is always lower on the loan
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what was your interest rate?
4.9%, paid it off in 18 months, car is free and clear. My car has 82000 miles on it now, probabaly could sell it for $10,000 or so, maybe a little less.

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I didn't mind buying used because Hondas don't have the expensive maintenance I endured with NEW domestic cars..........
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looked at some ads for a 2005 Toyota Matrix just for fun

it's crazy that i see a few that are either what i paid for it in October of 2004 or a little more
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it's crazy that i see a few that are either what i paid for it in October of 2004 or a little more
How much was regular uinleaded gas in October of 2004? I found a gas receipt from 10/16/2007, gas was $2.71 a gallon........
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