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Old 06-11-2008, 06:50 AM   #81
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So really, the question for me is this. Is the Camry (or Altima) worth an extra $2k (or $2500)?? In my opinion, yes.
I would have to agree. The Corolla is a fine car to drive around town, but it is small and I would feel safer on the Interstate in a Camry. Plus, as you mention the Camry can be a little more luxurious.

Also you might be interested in the Honda Fit as an alternative to the Corolla, due to the roomy and versatile interior configuration. But the Corolla is a very good small car as well, with a longer track record.
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Old 06-11-2008, 09:09 AM   #82
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Old 06-11-2008, 09:59 AM   #83
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Also you might be interested in the Honda Fit as an alternative to the Corolla, due to the roomy and versatile interior configuration. But the Corolla is a very good small car as well, with a longer track record.
I think I read somewhere cars got bigger; e.g. that the new Corollas and Civics are almost the same size as older Camrys and Accords. On the other hand, the bigger the car the heavier it becomes and therefore it'll burn more gas.
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Well.........not in the market now, but if I was, a 2008 Honda Accord sedan with the EXL package. 31 mpg highway, and it's as large as a Toyota Avalon..........

My uncle, "Mr. American Car guy", just bought a 2007 Honda Fit, but he will NEVER give up his 2005 Buick LeSabre.......
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Well, I rode in a coal fired steam engine train a few months ago. But it would be kind of impractical for errands around town...
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Old 06-11-2008, 02:22 PM   #86
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I'm in the market for a new Corolla, looking to trade in an 05 Hyundai Elantra. The Hyundai's been a pretty good car, however with no local dealer any problems cost me a day off to take care of. And recent attempts to get a warrantied problem fixed failed. But it's run well and with a local dealer I'd be more inclined to pursue the matter.
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Corollas have gotten larger over the last 10 years. My daughter has a 2000 Corolla which is noticeably smaller than current ones. Toyota seems to have kept the miles per gallon about the same while increasing the size of the car.

Our local small town dealer wants full MSRP on their Corollas, so I may be going to the big city looking for a better deal.
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I would have to agree. The Corolla is a fine car to drive around town, but it is small and I would feel safer on the Interstate in a Camry. Plus, as you mention the Camry can be a little more luxurious.
Both cars received 5 star ratings in the crash tests...neither is safer than the other. I understand sometimes people "feel" safer in larger cars, but those feelings are often not backed up by facts.

Some people rely more on how they feel, some more on facts. I think it's obvious which way I am. Neither is right or wrong...just different. I just wanted to point this out to the posters so that each can make their own decision.

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I was an auto mechanic for 10 years, and I still am a car enthusiast. I only worked on one Honda for every 6 GM cars. Realizing that at the time GM sold about twice as many cars as Honda, that means GM cars require repairs (at least the types of repairs I did...brakes, suspension, and driveline) 3 times as often. If you believe in Consumer Reports, their findings support this.

Different people value different attributes in a car. For me, the single most important attribute is durability, which is a measure of how long the car will last without significant repairs. This is different than reliability, which measures whether the car will function every time you need it.

For durability, I'd recommend the following makes, although there are some exceptions depending on which MODEL within the make you purchase.

1) Honda
2) Toyota
3) Mazda

There are tons of data out there about car quality, often it is complex and not easily interpreted, such as the IQR (Initial Quality Ranking). That is one of the least understood ratings in America...virtually no one knows what it means, but everyone uses it.

P.S. I own a Honda (my everyday car), a Mazda (wife), a 1969 Camaro show car, and a 2007 Mustang GT500 (race car).

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I drive a new Malibu as my "work car"......total junk.....and brand new.

I would personally avoid American union made cars and go 3-4 yrs old (someone else eats the depreciation).

Just my humble opinion....personally I drive old Volvos.....bullet proof.

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I want everyone to know that I did not pay Chris to write that and make me look so darned smart.
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I drive a new Malibu as my "work car"......total junk.....and brand new.

I would personally avoid American union made cars and go 3-4 yrs old (someone else eats the depreciation).

Just my humble opinion....personally I drive old Volvos.....bullet proof.

Good luck,
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The "Car of the Year" Malibu, or a 2007??

Sad if it's the "Car of the YEar"model............
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I would still buy a Subaru Forester....I LOVE my car!
I took it to Asheville, NC a couple of weeks ago and drove 1700 miles in three days.....only spent a total of $300 in gas.
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Well, I rode in a coal fired steam engine train a few months ago. But it would be kind of impractical for errands around town...
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I would still buy a Subaru Forester....I LOVE my car!
I took it to Asheville, NC a couple of weeks ago and drove 1700 miles in three days.....only spent a total of $300 in gas.
What kind of mileage did you get??
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My friend came to town and rented a Mazda 3. I think Mazda is now my favorite car manufacturer.

Edit: Especially when I'm the passenger and I get to change gears whenever I want!
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Sticker shock

Having looked at the Toyota Yaris and the Honda Fit so far, I have found that they are selling at NO discount to MSRP, due to "high demand and limited supply"...
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This articles indicates that we should wait till 2010 to buy a new vehicle. That is when the new breed of hybrids and plug-in electrics will hit. The prius will apparently get 80 mpg....

Why You Should Wait Until 2010 to Buy a New Car | EcoGeek
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I remain delighted with my decision to buy a Mini Cooper in 2007. It may not be the most economical purchase, but it’s fun to drive, roomy inside, gets more than 40 mpg and has a “coolness” factor not associated with other small cars.
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