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Old 07-02-2019, 04:15 AM   #21
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Old 07-02-2019, 04:24 AM   #22
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I stopped after a pack went from $.21 to $.25. At my income level I couldn't afford them anymore and I was getting mad at myself for being controlled by them so one day I just put them down and stopped.


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I quit smoking in 1981 or so. There was a long period in 79 when I was trying to quit that I smoked over a pack a day of free cigarettes. Companies trying to break into the market were handing mini packs out on the corners all over downtown Chicago. Enabling coworkers would collect packs and drop them on my desk. I have never had even a hint of problem with habits from other drugs or alcohol but getting off cigarettes took years.
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Old 07-02-2019, 06:13 AM   #24
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As I recall, in the late '60's cigarette pack seemed to track the price of a gallon of gasoline. I never took up the smoking habit but did frequent the gas station often.
I don’t remember when it happened, but I recall noticing when the price of a pack of cigarettes exceeded the cost of a gallon of gas. It looked strange at the time.
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Old 07-02-2019, 06:40 AM   #25
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I don’t remember when it happened, but I recall noticing when the price of a pack of cigarettes exceeded the cost of a gallon of gas. It looked strange at the time.

About the furthest back I can remember is the summer of 1987. I worked at a veterinary clinic that was next door to a grocery store. "Basics", it was called. One of the technicians used to give me a couple bucks and go over to get her some cigarettes from time to time. I remember they were about $1.50-1.75 a pack at the time. Meanwhile, gasoline was usually around 85-95 cents per gallon for 87 octane. I remember we used to whine when it would occasionally break $1.00/gal.


I remember one time, in the checkout line, with the cigs, the wife of the reverend at our church was in line behind me. We started chatting, but I got nervous, holding those cigs. When I went to ring them up, I just blurted out "These aren't for me, I don't smoke!" real nervously. Someone behind the reverend's wife hollered out "Yeah, RIGHT!!"



I think back on that time now, and laugh, but it was a bit embarrassing, for a 17 year old kid who had it drilled into his head that smoking was evil. Shows how innocent the times were, too. I'm pretty sure the legal age for smoking was 18, but they didn't care if an under-age kid bought them...heck, in those days, you could still get them from cigarette machines in lobbies and such! And, I was able to just get a pack right off the shelf. Nowadays, they're usually locked up behind the customer service counter.
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I wonder how long until these taxes reach pipe tobacco, which is only about $10/oz. I figure an oz of dried pipe tobacco is at least half a pack and will last me months.

This has been one of my lbym techniques: no expensive vices or hobbies. Disc golf instead of regular golf, off label wine instead of whisky, and pipe tobacco over cigars or cigarettes. Besides, I prefer pipe tobacco quality and flavor over cigarettes.
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Old 07-02-2019, 06:54 AM   #27
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I wonder how long until these taxes reach pipe tobacco, which is only about $10/oz. I figure an oz of dried pipe tobacco is at least half a pack and will last me months.

This has been one of my lbym techniques: no expensive vices or hobbies. Disc golf instead of regular golf, off label wine instead of whisky, and pipe tobacco over cigars or cigarettes. Besides, I prefer pipe tobacco quality and flavor over cigarettes.

it also seems like cigars haven't been hit...yet.
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Why would anyone smoke anyway in 2019? They could be $40 a pack (Like Australia) and that would not affect most of us here. Seems when we look around at who is smoking they seem/appear (Yes this is a stereotype) to be on the lower end of the income scale for the most part as someone already mentioned, or at least look like they can ill afford to smoke. Completely illogical.
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Illinois also doubled its state tax on gasoline, from 19 to 38 cents a gallon. Driving is harder to quit.

It's not hard to grow your own marijuana but I've never heard of people keeping a few tobacco plants for personal use. Hmmm, business opportunity....

I had my last Marlboro on New Year's Day 1975 and still miss smoking once in a while. My friends who also quit smoking and I used to joke that we'd start again when we hit 60 but nobody has.
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... I was driving home and the news radio was carrying an announcement by the governor (who I really didn't like). He was crowing about signing a bill imposing an additional $1/pack tax on cigarettes "for the childrens's sake"... The dedicated tax that was supposed to benefit "the children" was rolled into the general fund. Go figure.
It depends on what the definition of "children" is.

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... It's not hard to grow your own marijuana but I've never heard of people keeping a few tobacco plants for personal use. Hmmm, business opportunity...
I like how you think. Whenever there's some news, the first thing a business-minded person asks is "how do I profit". And there's nothing against the law about cultivating tobacco in one's backyard, is there?

So, one can open a shop to sell seeds, host seminars on how to grow tobacco, dry the leaves, cut and roll it, etc...

We are mostly retirees here, but some youngins surfin' the forum can run with this idea.
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Illinois also doubled its state tax on gasoline, from 19 to 38 cents a gallon. Driving is harder to quit.

It's not hard to grow your own marijuana but I've never heard of people keeping a few tobacco plants for personal use. Hmmm, business opportunity....

I had my last Marlboro on New Year's Day 1975 and still miss smoking once in a while. My friends who also quit smoking and I used to joke that we'd start again when we hit 60 but nobody has.
This is a no BS story...….I had an uncle that smoked camel non-filters and started when he was a teenager. His fingers were brownish/yellow from the smoke. My aunt hated the fact that he smoked and she let him know it on a daily basis. He told her if he lived to be 70 he would quit, and he did. He let family know that he quit smoking but said if his wife doesn't quit complaining he was going to start smoking again if he lived to be 80, and he did. He was 91 when he passed away from complications with emphysema.

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4 bucks a pack is material - if I were smoking I'd just smoke loose tobacco
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Interesting that smoking tobacco is Out due to lung cancer, but smoking mj is In though the risks are apparently similar.
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Interesting that smoking tobacco is Out due to lung cancer, but smoking mj is In though the risks are apparently similar.
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"Studies that have looked for a direct link between the two have conflicting results -- some found evidence that ties marijuana to lung cancer, while other data show little to no connection."

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Maybe MJ users do not smoke as much?

Never an MJ smoker so I have to ask if it is possible that one can smoke as much MJ as in a pack or two of cigarettes. Would he become so stoned to just lay down all day? Could one get overdosed and die on MJ?
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Maybe MJ users do not smoke as much?

Never an MJ smoker so I have to ask if it is possible that one can smoke as much MJ as in a pack or two of cigarettes. Would he become so stoned to just lay down all day? Could one get overdosed and die on MJ?
No deaths have ever been associated with cannabis overdoses*. There have been a few unfortunates who, like anyone on other substances, have had accidental deaths while high. "Overdoses" are more common with edibles. They aren't harmful other than the PIA stoned person who didn't follow the directions.

Personally if I tried to smoke 20 - 40 joints I'd just go to sleep. That's too much for a week.

I've seen a bunch of "medical" opinions lately that smell of 1950s reefer madness. They are popular with folks who were indoctrinated then. I received one from a prior healthcare provider that I wish I'd saved. It was very interesting to say the least.

*I did see a doctor in Alabama(?) who claims a lady passed from cannabis overdose. He hasn't offered up any data that backs his claim. Personally I know a few people who have tried to OD on cannabis and they just went to sleep.
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Yup, we never thought it would be legalized in our lifetimes. Hehe, yes you can even buy a "pack of joints" that comes with a free lighter because nobody carries a lighter anymore.
Any plans this fourth? Someone was asking...
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"Studies that have looked for a direct link between the two have conflicting results -- some found evidence that ties marijuana to lung cancer, while other data show little to no connection."

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