I'm no longer FIRE

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Ok. Gotta admit it. After over a decade of FIRE (2/2004-12/2009 non working years, 2010-2014 PT seasonally, 2/2015-10/2017 FT) I apparently hit SSA's definition of full benefit age. So now I'm just FIR. And can draw on my xH account (so instead of supporting him for 17+ years I get payback?).

Hence my question: How did you decide how much to have withheld from the check and how did you do it? What happens if I draw on his # and he decides to draw on mine (if he can remember my SSN)
 
Ok. Gotta admit it. After over a decade of FIRE (2/2004-12/2009 non working years, 2010-2014 PT seasonally, 2/2015-10/2017 FT) I apparently hit SSA's definition of full benefit age. So now I'm just FIR. And can draw on my xH account (so instead of supporting him for 17+ years I get payback?).

Hence my question: How did you decide how much to have withheld from the check and how did you do it? What happens if I draw on his # and he decides to draw on mine (if he can remember my SSN)
How much to withhold depends on your other income streams. You don't get a flexible choice, you are offered 4 options, 7, 10, 12, or 22%. I started out on the low end, then bumped it up when income tax rules for 2018 changed.



https://www.ssa.gov/planners/taxwithold.html
 
We take the full SS amount. I pay quarterly estimated taxes from other income or investments.
YMMV depending on each persons situation
 
How much to withhold depends on your other income streams. You don't get a flexible choice, you are offered 4 options, 7, 10, 12, or 22%. I started out on the low end, then bumped it up when income tax rules for 2018 changed.



https://www.ssa.gov/planners/taxwithold.html
4 yrs to RMD so just pension @ 36k + taxable dividends. Thinking midstream (12%) might be too low as I've learned it will all be taxable? If I choose 'wrong' it can be changed next year
 
And can draw on my xH account (so instead of supporting him for 17+ years I get payback?).

What happens if I draw on his # and he decides to draw on mine (if he can remember my SSN)
When either you and/or he file, you'll get an amount equal to your own benefit or half of the other's, whichever is larger. It won't matter to either of you whether the other has filed.
 
I'm in the pre 1954 group so SSA said I can choose to get half his or all mine not whichever is greater but will research further as I want mine to keep growing until 70 (self funding possible assisted living in the future should kids / grandkids ever move out of my small town)
 
I'm in the pre 1954 group so SSA said I can choose to get half his or all mine not whichever is greater but will research further as I want mine to keep growing until 70 (self funding possible assisted living in the future should kids / grandkids ever move out of my small town)
In this situation I'm glad I'm a few years older. https://www.ssa.gov/planners/retire/deemedfaq.html
 
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How much to withhold depends on your other income streams. You don't get a flexible choice, you are offered 4 options, 7, 10, 12, or 22%. I started out on the low end, then bumped it up when income tax rules for 2018 changed.



https://www.ssa.gov/planners/taxwithold.html

When I started SS at my FRA earlier this year I filed an IRS form W-4V to withhold taxes, but I was given the choices of 7%, 10%, 15% or 25%. Not that much of a difference from what you stated, but I chose 15% for this first year, to be adjusted in the future if appropriate.


My DH will do a file and suspend at his FRA birthday in January, and claim spousal benefits on mine until he reaches 70. We had planned to request that 15% be withheld on that as well, but if it is now 12%, that should be OK for the first year.
 
When I started SS at my FRA earlier this year I filed an IRS form W-4V to withhold taxes, but I was given the choices of 7%, 10%, 15% or 25%. Not that much of a difference from what you stated, but I chose 15% for this first year, to be adjusted in the future if appropriate.


My DH will do a file and suspend at his FRA birthday in January, and claim spousal benefits on mine until he reaches 70. We had planned to request that 15% be withheld on that as well, but if it is now 12%, that should be OK for the first year.

You cannot do "file and suspend" any longer. I think you mean "file and restrict".
 
I started at 10%, which turned out to be too low; I ended up owing a lot of money this year so I upped it to 20%. That seems about right now, especially since I expect to be hurt by the 2018 tax changes, though it's hard to be sure. I'd be happy to get a refund, though I doubt that will happen. You can always adjust the amount if needed.

What your X claims will have no effect on what you're getting.
 
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