I get a PE is part beaurocratic, part legitimately for public safety- one of those half truth areas. I'm fine taking it and seeing it as a part of my education in Engineering. So many things will come out in the next decades that I'll have to keep learning if I'm serious about creating value here.
Thanks jiMoh
1) Choose the career you want (job type, company type)
Not sure here as any water treatment or sustainable
house building would satisfy me intellectually and financially.
2) Pick a generic degree which opens the most opportunities.
Civil and Environmental Engineering is as generic as I can get here.
3) What certifications will you need once you graduate?
FE and ABET accredited are the big ones, PE is not essential but a payboost and more managing others, signing off plans if I'm in a water treatment plant based on seniority.
4) Ask hard questions about the faculty at school of choice-
If you want environmental engineering jobs, how many of your classes will be taught by environmental engineers?
Once I'm in upper division all the schools have Civil or Environmental (same accreditation) as the majority of my teachers.
5) Ask each of the 8 colleges for list of classes you will have to take. How many of those classes are common to all 8 programs.
Up to Multi-Variable Calculus, linear Algebra, general chemistry, Physics electricity and magnetism for all. Some require additional Physics, vector Calculus.
All require fluid mechanics, hydrology, 2-3 engineering electives and 2-3 design courses. The curricula seem extremely similar, even in electives. I've already take over 80% of lower division at community college and upper division offers better internship opportunities so I'm wanting to start that sooner than later.
b) is there a lab with the class?
All schools have some labs, none seem to above here except the Calpolys which have more electives available.
c) What is the student/teacher ratio (5:1 or 10:1 suggest that school likely has a lot of specialized electives- these specialized electives are what make a school good or great, IMO) 50:1 suggests every student takes the same classes
Lowest is 19:1 with Irvine and Slo, highest is SJSU at 33:1
d) How many free engineering electives can you take within your Major? At my school, MEs had 5 engineering electives, EEs only had two. For the ME electives it was take 2 classes from this list, one class from this list, one class from this list, and one free elective within department. Check these rules out before you sign up.
Its 3 electives and 2-3 designs, across the boars
e) How large are the departments at each school? I would suggest it is better professionally to attend the larger program than the cheapest program. The cost of the larger program will pay dividends as you will meet more environmental engineers and like minded people while going to school. This will pay off professionally (my best job contacts are people I meet at customers and people I know from college).
All the schools have a decent program, SFSU seems to have the lowest quality by ranking.
f) larger programs offer required classes more often. Meaning some classes are offered every semester, some classes are offered once per year- ask how often each class on the list made in #5 are offered? In some small engineering programs, some classes might only be offered once a semester in odd years and others once per semester in even years- those classes might be required so it might delay getting a degree and earning money if you take a semester off or fail a class.
I agree, I definitely also need to look into the specific rules for each school. I've emailed all 8 schools for internship and co-op opportunities. None seem too extravagant here, though every single school has engineering clubs which seem to be the easiest route to initial experience while I find internships. Slo does have a page for internships but that's the only one. Slo is also the school I'm least likely to get into, I have an admission guarantee with Irvine.
I'm looking to get out with a job that's intellectually stimulating, offers 60k+ per year after taxes for 30-40hour work, and that I believe in. A profit sharing self sustainable company automating the building of self sustainable homes (3d printing houses with built in water recycling and catching, solar panels, strong insulation) sounds ideal but that may be harder to find, especially for interning.