Early Retirement Forums

Go Back   Early Retirement Forums > General > FIRE and Money





Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-14-2004, 02:20 PM   #1
oldcrowcall
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 62
investment manager fee

About 1 year after I retired I gave a large chunk of my retirement portfolio to an investment manager. He has done a good job but charges 1% of the balance as a fee. I recently realized that this would amout to 1 million over the next 30 years. I could do a lot with that over that time. So could my heirs. Should I just put everything in a balanced fund and forget it?
oldcrowcall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2004, 02:25 PM   #2
cute fuzzy bunny
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
cute fuzzy bunny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Losing my whump
Posts: 22,534
Re: investment manager fee

Read "the four pillars of investing" by bernstein, almost anything by bogle, or for a quick run through, read my "book report" on the four pillars over in the investment section.

Short answer: yes, you would probably be as well or better off investing in low cost index funds, and a balanced index fund is a good place to start. A little more asset allocation to some foreign, reit, and small cap funds and you're 99% of the way there. For under .25% per year on average.
__________________

Many an optimist has become rich by buying out a pessimist
cute fuzzy bunny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2004, 05:04 PM   #3
Bob_Smith
Full time employment: Posting here.
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 902
Re: investment manager fee

Oldcrowcall, I wouldn't even consider paying someone 1% per year. At a 4% withdrawal rate, that's one fourth of your income! Not only that, you expose yourself to someone else's potential mistakes. I simply would not trust someone with my only means of support. It's way too important not to do yourself.
Bob_Smith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2004, 05:16 PM   #4
Nords
Moderator Emeritus
 
Nords's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Oahu
Posts: 15,402
Re:  Congratulations!

You've just put a financial manager on the road to ER-- a couple more clients like you and he'll be retired in no time!

If you're still working and have no free time, then it might be better to pay someone to manage your money while you do what you do best-- earn more of it. Hopefully you're earning faster than your advisor is.

If you choose to remain blissfully ignorant, then you should pay someone else to manage your retirement funds.

If paying 1% to someone lets you sleep better at night, then that's what you should do. But the fact that they won't return your money if they lose it would keep me awake at night.

If you have any interest at all in managing your money (which is probably one of the reasons you're at this board) then you should read a Bernstein or Armstrong book and go buy some index funds.
__________________
*
*
For more info see "About Me" in my profile.
Nords is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2004, 06:28 AM   #5
oldcrowcall
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 62
Re: investment manager fee

Thanks for those insightful and humorous answers! I am going to go read the books recommended.
oldcrowcall is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
fixed fee investment advisor JJac FIRE and Money 89 05-20-2007 08:35 AM
Investment Fee study mickeyd FIRE and Money 2 01-10-2007 08:36 PM
What is this investment ? Delawaredave FIRE and Money 9 12-27-2006 12:42 PM
What is a (good) manager? vvsonikvv Young Dreamers 55 08-01-2006 09:26 PM
Investment Manager fees oldcrowcall FIRE and Money 2 04-15-2004 10:08 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:24 PM.

Other Social Knowledge forum communities:
Cooking Forum - Sailing Forum - Early Retirement - Airstream Trailer - Aquarium Forum - Royal Forum - Book Forum - Volkswagen Touareg Forum - Jeep Wrangler Forum - Whitewater Kayaking & Rafting Forum - Fiberglass RV Forum - RV Forum - Truck Conversion - U2 Music Forum
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0