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Old 07-07-2016, 02:32 PM   #141
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meh, he's a quitter - he should have manned up and stuck with it (that's my Dad talking)
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Old 07-07-2016, 02:46 PM   #142
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meh, he's a quitter - he should have manned up and stuck with it (that's my Dad talking)
My thoughts are he opted to get into the private sector where he contributed to productivity instead of staying at a job where he was a cost to society.
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Old 07-07-2016, 02:50 PM   #143
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Does anyone follow the "Financial Independence" Reddit subforum? I have been for awhile, but get more and more convinced the average age there has to be in the low 20's and probably 99% nowhere near FIRE.
What is Reddit? Never heard of it.

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Another gem from that guy: "The only other thing I left off is a minor position in a cricket flour/cricket protein bar company. I don't count it in my assets because it's so speculative, but it seems they are the market leader in what I think is going to become a huge market in the next 10 to 20 years."
I guess only time will tell, but I don't see it myself. While cricket has a huge following within Great Britain and most of the Empire's former colonies, it has almost no appeal elsewhere. And how does a sport tie into baking or snacks?
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Old 07-07-2016, 02:57 PM   #144
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My thoughts are he opted to get into the private sector where he contributed to productivity instead of staying at a job where he was a cost to society.
that's hilarious
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...problem is, if he stayed with the old job, there might have eventually been the problem of self-medication (drugs/alcohol)to ease the distress he felt revolving around that government job.

I'm sure curious as to the nature of his old job. Without replaying the video I think he referred to "staring into a screen all day" or something along that line. I have to wonder was it the sort of work that others would find interesting and challenging or was it so tedious, repetitive or otherwise mind-numbing that it would drive most anyone nuts after awhile. At $80k I would think the former but who could say. And I'd be the first to admit having once or twice found myself numbed by work that others found interesting. But man am I glad I stayed the course.
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Old 07-07-2016, 03:19 PM   #146
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meh, he's a quitter - he should have manned up and stuck with it (that's my Dad talking)
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You make a good point.

So that he has more time to...socialize? (OMG, I can hear my late Dad now!!)

Pass the guacamole, bro.
I just figured something out, both you (Big_Hitter) and marko have the SAME dad and you can both hear him talking to you. (He seems have the same message for both you boys).

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redduck: can I have some of that guacamole?
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I think I saw the same video as you. He has a bachelor apartment. And, it looked clean. It's not a squalid garret (I know that for a fact, because I went to high school with a guy named "Squalid" Garret and he didn't look anything like that apartment).

And, if all you can glean from the video is that he mental health problems, well, that's fine and you may be correct. But, if you do believe that, it seems like maybe he should be cut some slack for taking care of himself, working a job that he can handle, having friends and working on his emotional self. He problem is, if he stayed with the old job, there might have eventually been the problem of self-medication (drugs/alcohol)to ease the distress he felt revolving around that government job.
+1 on the guy's apartment.

+1 too on the guy's quitting, instead of going "postal" as some others did.
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Old 07-07-2016, 05:47 PM   #148
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+2 on the apartment. There are many people who live in studio apartments. Besides college kids everywhere, many adults in cities like Paris and New York live in studios where housing costs are high. They aren't all mentally ill.

The U.S. has large home sizes compared to many other developed countries. Home sizes around the world:

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In the U.S. in the 1950s, people had 276 sq ft of living space per person on average. Today it is 961.
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+2 on the apartment. There are many people who live in studio apartments. Besides college kids everywhere, many adults in cities like Paris and New York live in studios where housing costs are high. They aren't all mentally ill.

The U.S. has large home sizes compared to many other developed countries. Home sizes around the world:

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In the U.S. in the 1950s, people had 276 sq ft of living space per person on average. Today it is 961.
that was then, this is now

I wouldn't mind living in that garret if I was in college or just out of school.

I've studied and worked too hard to live like a pauper.
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I just figured something out, both you (Big_Hitter) and marko have the SAME dad and you can both hear him talking to you. (He seems have the same message for both you boys).

chorus: remarkable.
redduck: thanks
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redduck: can I have some of that guacamole?
it's a great message - kids nowadays should hear it, all day every day, then maybe we would have some real growth in this country instead of turning into a nation of slackers
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There are always jobs that some people have to do. We should not look down on the people doing these jobs for us. They are no slackers, and could be working harder, and for less pay, than paper pushers in bureaucratic government or megacorps.
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I just figured something out, both you (Big_Hitter) and marko have the SAME dad and you can both hear him talking to you. (He seems have the same message for both you boys).
This answers a question me and my mom have had for years!!!
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Seriously, there have been several comments about this guy possibly having some sort of mental issues.

If that's the case, maybe his choices should not be within the context of LBYM, retirement or the perspectives of the general millennial population.

We'll likely never know if this is a financial choice or a mental health choice, but I'd hate to think many here (myself included) were bashing this guy when he was just trying to stay sane.
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Seriously, there have been several comments about this guy possibly having some sort of mental issues.

If that's the case, maybe his choices should not be within the context of LBYM, retirement or the perspectives of the general millennial population.

We'll likely never know if this is a financial choice or a mental health choice, but I'd hate to think many here (myself included) were bashing this guy when he was just trying to stay sane.
agreed - uncool to bash for mental issues
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There are always jobs that some people have to do. We should not look down on the people doing these jobs for us. They are no slackers, and could be working harder, and for less pay, than paper pushers in bureaucratic government or megacorps.
I'm not looking down on anyone that does good, honest work. Not sure where that came from...


Based on what I've seen the last several years I am afraid that kids nowadays don't have the same work ethic we did 30 years ago. That's all.
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that was then, this is now

I wouldn't mind living in that garret if I was in college or just out of school.

I've studied and worked too hard to live like a pauper.
Not everyone needs big homes and cars to be happy. From a historical and worldwide perspective, average American homes are really big and use up a lot of resources to build and maintain. But according to most happiness research, home size isn't what makes people happy. It is more factors like social connections, getting out in nature, helping others, leisure time and exercise which the guy in the video is getting more of now that he has changed jobs, downsized, works less and simplified his life.
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But according to most happiness research, home size isn't what makes people happy. It is more factors like social connections, getting out in nature, helping others, leisure time and exercise
it's actually possible to have all of that, believe it or not
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it's a great message - kids nowadays should hear it, all day every day, then maybe we would have some real growth in this country instead of turning into a nation of slackers

Why should people value economic growth vs slacking off (i.e. taking it easy and minimizing stress)? There has been no wage growth in decades. All the growth does is go to mega corp... which unfortunately very few people own stocks. So they see no benefit.

I do wish that more people would invest money. So that they could see some of the gains from neo-liberalism, but given all the booms-busts I'm not surprised they want no part of it. From what I understand millennials are staying out of stocks almost entirely. So if they can't benefit from growth, why not slack off and get more free-time? Seems rational to me.
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So if they can't benefit from growth, why not slack off and get more free-time? Seems rational to me.
because quitting on the 'murican dream is bad?
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