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Old 05-11-2016, 06:01 PM   #21
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Joe's Crab Shack Curtails No Tipping Policy

Originally Posted by MuirWannabe View Post
Nothing to add on the tipping subject. But in terms of Joe's Crab Shack their biggest problem IMO is the noisy restaurants. They play music on their speakers very loud and just seem to generally go out of their way to make it so noisy you cannot talk with your table mates. I don't get it. This has always been a problem at Joe's. But it actually seems to be getting worse at many restaurants.

Now, get off my lawn.

Noisy restaurants are an ongoing problem, IMHO. Some manage to be noisy even without music and sports on TV. For some reason they think we want to here what the people four tables away are saying. And the espresso machine going full tilt. They don't know about using fabrics, wood etc. to absorb noise.

Put me down on the side of higher stated prices and no tipping.

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Old 05-11-2016, 06:31 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by doneat58 View Post
I never have liked the "presumptive" (included) tip. I tip if I get good service, do not it I don't. I was in Miami in March for several days and was really surprised how many placed added 18% gratuity on all bills. In my own "dining geography" (and we dine out very often) I have not seen it, and if I do, I will not go back to that establishment.

Not tipping assures you'll get extra attention on your next visit...

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Old 05-11-2016, 07:06 PM   #23
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To those who don't like it when the tip is included or part of the meal, the idea of a flat stable wage for the servers... gonna guess you maybe never waited tables? Don't have memories of your early days on your own, getting anxious because the restaurant is having a few slow nights and you've got rent to pay...

In tourist areas, added gratuity or tip-included in price, protects the wait staff from the EU patrons who aren't aware of US custom, or those who don't tip as well because "never have to come back here!". If you've ever spent half your night serving a rowdy large table of tourists and ended up with a $3 tip you'd favor a flat model.

A good waiter is a good waiter, and you'll get good service because they take pride in their job. They increase their tip not by being extra nice, (mostly). but by up-selling you and talk you into the special or a nice wine to maximize your check and the percent.

In a normal tip model, a waiter with $500 in total checks at the end of the night takes home more than the one with $400, almost every time. Even if the $400 one gave "better" service.
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Old 05-11-2016, 07:22 PM   #24
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I've always felt that a great way to judge the quality of the people you are with is to handle paying the bill at a restaurant when out with them ( it worked better when most people used cash). If everyone hands the person paying enough money to cover their bill with tax and tip included, it's a good group.

When I was out with my close friends, the person handling the bill always ended up with a bunch of extra money to distribute back even after a generous tip.

Some other groups of people I've been with have left the payer struggling to even cover the bill itself. They weren't people I miss seeing.

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