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Old 03-08-2009, 07:57 AM   #21
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I'm a pretty conservative guy, but I think Steward is the funniest act in show business today. And that was a great clip. Nothing works better than irony to expose some truths.
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I'm a pretty conservative guy, but I think Steward is the funniest act in show business today. And that was a great clip. Nothing works better than irony to expose some truths.
Do you really think there truth is to be found on John Stewart's show or just his point of view presented in a funny way so that people will watch and commercial time can be sold?

As others have mentioned the "truths" have not been established as such.

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Do you really think there truth is to be found on John Stewart's show or just his point of view presented in a funny way so that people will watch and commercial time can be sold?
Absolutely no truth on Stewards' show. CNBC never pumped stocks or companies that were in a death spiral.
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Absolutely no truth on Stewards' show. CNBC never pumped stocks or companies that were in a death spiral.
It is good that you linked those two shows because they do have some things in common.
I watched a few shows of the Daily Show and stopped when it became predictable - a major sin in comedy.
I think people who watch the Daily Show it fall into one or more of the following categories:
- supports a predetermined opinion they have about a subject
- feels a sense of community - others laughs - I belong
- mistakes cynicism for criticism
- mistakes cynicism for analytical thinking
- mistakenly think there is some research going, instead of just joke writers
- mistake it for a news show

I was thinking about comedy shows the other day and wondering how shows like the Howard Stern Show have such a strong following.
My guess is that people can get stuck in certain types of humor.
Bathroom jokes - grade school level
Sex Jokes - high school level
Differences jokes - ethnic, man/woman - college freshman?
Cynicism Jokes - The Daily Show - college sophomore level - sophomoric

Observational Humor - ? Level
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I think people who watch the Daily Show it fall into one or more of the following categories:
- supports a predetermined opinion they have about a subject
- feels a sense of community - others laughs - I belong
- mistakes cynicism for criticism
- mistakes cynicism for analytical thinking
- mistakenly think there is some research going, instead of just joke writers
- mistake it for a news show
Good list. I would add one more:

Thinks cynicism is a good antidote to idealogues and demagogues, and enjoys someone responding with a f* you when a ponzi schemer is idolized on CNBC.

John Steward in the same category as Howard Stern
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John Steward in the same category as Howard Stern
Not the same - HS does bathroom and sex jokes - just different types of jokes.
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Not the same - HS does bathroom and sex jokes - just different types of jokes.
HS's TV show sometimes featured Howard placing physically or mentally challenged folks in embarrassing/humiliating situations to mock and belittle them. Apparently this was very popular with his viewers and does say a lot about them and him.
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I don't necessarily find fault in Santelli's positions.
What I hate is his method of getting his style across, he simply out-shouts anyone that disagrees with him, rather than having a discussion.
The day I liked him the most was the day he had lost his voice (almost).
He had to talk quietly, and wonder of wonders, everyone else followed suit.
They actually discussed different positions, it was almost good TV
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What I hate is his method of getting his style across, he simply out-shouts anyone that disagrees with him, rather than having a discussion.
The day I liked him the most was the day he had lost his voice (almost).
He had to talk quietly, and wonder of wonders, everyone else followed suit.
They actually discussed different positions, it was almost good TV
His speech pattern may be more a function of where he grew up - North east inner city(?) very competitive, you have to shout over all your friends to be heard and trading in the pits.

Those who did not grow up in the N.E. inner city might find this hard to understand.

You might not hear it in his microphone but it is noisy around him.
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