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Old 10-03-2015, 04:11 PM   #21
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I'm hanging onto my old trusty flip phone. Was talking to my sister who has an android phone and I had to say several times that she was fading out. Then she goes "oops, didn't have the phone next to my mouth"). But in her case, I think more human error than faulty phone.
It might be for me, too. I need to experiment with this extensively when I'm talking to F and we both have the time for it. But gosh, I never had so many complaints about it before this year. So far, F says that how I point the phone doesn't seem to help (but I only tried a few changes).

Meanwhile, I am still down on iPhones and far from being smug about owning one!
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Old 10-03-2015, 04:19 PM   #22
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Heh heh....I might use a couple of your suggestions.

Actually we participate in these activities several times a month. ...
Wow, I thought this was just a once or twice a year thing, so just let it go. But several times a month? Time for a lesson!

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Prius is a glorified golf cart, tell them to get a real car that can do what they want to do. Also charge them extra for "wear and tear" on your car besides gas cost.
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If you buy a Chevy Suburban you'll find your Outback friends will want to ride with you, more comfortable, even better in snow, can put stuff in back without disassembly, maybe even their Prius.


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Dog...sounds like you might have a case of Prius envy? I should go on record and say that I don't own a Prius, but know some nice people that do.


Now...about the smug iPhone owners....
Not getting that Prius envy at all. I know some nice Prius owners too, but it sounds like Dog's friends are kind of jerks about it except for when they need something else.
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Those smug Prius driving bustards don't deserve to have you as a friend. I think you should just hang out with people that drive manly vehicles.
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Hi Easysurfer,

No Prius envy here. I could have one if I wanted one. I carefully assessed the lifestyle I wanted in retirement and the Subaru best fit my needs (I'm a short, 57 YO woman and I can load my 16' kayak on the rack myself).

Also no smugness in owning an iPhone. It was the cell phone that work required and they let me keep it when I retired.




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Hi Easysurfer,

No Prius envy here. I could have one if I wanted one. I carefully assessed the lifestyle I wanted in retirement and the Subaru best fit my needs (I'm a short, 57 YO woman and I can load my 16' kayak on the rack myself).

Also no smugness in owning an iPhone. It was the cell phone that work required and they let me keep it when I retired.




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Hi Dog,

That's good to know about the no Prius envy. What is a perfect car for one person is not the right one for someone else.

I have a brother who reminds me again and a again the benefits of his smartphone (iPhone). I tell him, I'm happy with my flip phone. Works for me. I don't want a smartphone on all the time just a "page" away from being contacted.

p.s. I misunderstood your original post.
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That's exactly why we don't own a Prius. I think of them as "commuter" cars - for folks who have a lot of work commuting plus in-city driving for errands. Once you are ready to head off into the mountains for hiking or whatever, or packing the gear for that wildlife phot shoot - not so practical.
Lol, I'm actually stuck between a Prius C and HR-V. Primary use is to commute daily to work and that's in-city driving. However, the HR-V is just more practical for "long" drives when visiting relatives and for doing groceries and errands during weekends.

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Lol, I'm actually stuck between a Prius C and HR-V. Primary use is to commute daily to work and that's in-city driving. However, the HR-V is just more practical for "long" drives when visiting relatives and for doing groceries and errands during weekends.

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Maybe you should start charging for mileage.
I had a similar choice a couple of years ago between a Prius C or Honda Fit. Though I really liked the Prius C (Even to this day -- I guess the grass is always greener on the other side), I went with the Honda Fit as for me, the extra cargo capability is my #1 need vs the crazy good gas mileage. One of the first thing I did when getting the fit was to haul away a large exercise bike to drop off at Goodwill -- something I could not do with a Prius C.
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My wife gets this a lot she drives a GMC Sierra crew cab 4WD with a bed cover. So when the girls want to go shopping in Tucson 4 girls 4 big coolers who do you think drives. Luckily this is a once a quarter trip, and the others drive to Mexico for lunch and shopping which she doesn't like to do.
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Most of the time I don't mind driving and they typically contribute towards gas money. It just irks me that they are so smug about how they are saving the world by owning a Prius and look down on those who drive combustible engines, but don't hesitate to ask me to use my gas burning, polluting engine to get them where they want to be.
You guys are using your vehicle for what it does best. Seems only fair to use their vehicle for what it does best. Next time you need to run to the next town for a small errand, give one of your pals a call and see if they'll take you in their very efficient little car. When you've spent an hour of their time and wear-and-tear on their car, give them a buck for the gas they burned, and tell them how great you feel about saving the environment. The whole time you are in the car, go on and on about CO2, the value of carpooling like this, etc. Only do this a few times per month, same as your car is being used.
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We have a Prius, the thing has needed multiple repairs this year to the tune of about $3k. DW drives it every where. We also have an old F350 crew cab 4x4 that can go nearly anywhere off road. Then there is my car the Highlander. So not too much smugness for us, just a little bit.

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Most of the time I don't mind driving and they typically contribute towards gas money. It just irks me that they are so smug about how they are saving the world by owning a Prius and look down on those who drive combustible engines, but don't hesitate to ask me to use my gas burning, polluting engine to get them where they want to be.

Okay...,I feel better getting that off my chest!
Think maybe I'd play up how expensive it is for fuel is that pollution rich vehicle. Ask for more of that golden fuel.

Glad you like your Outback, I was thinking about looking for one to fill in for my ageing 4x4 Silverado. Smaller, way more gas efficient.
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If they have animals (dogs, cats, horses), you can tell them that dogs have a larger carbon footprint than an SUV. I looked this up one time because I have a relative that is very vocal about her dislike of the SUV but she has a horse and two large dogs.
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Gave the Outback to the oldest as a wedding present when he got married last summer, but liked that car. Plowed through 1 foot of snow to the Colorado cabin. It was a manual and got close to 30 mpg on the highway.
We have a new Forester and and older Legacy (the latter was the commute car). I actually like the Outback better than the Forester because the former's visibility was so much better but DW likes the Forester because it is automatic.
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Hi Al18,

I met these ladies through some of the clubs I joined to meet people with similar interests. They are more acquaintances then friends at this point. I enjoy hiking, backpacking and snowshoeing with them, but we don't have much in common beyond the outdoor activities.
Again, I was just venting and am happy to have folks to play outside with 😉

RobLJ,
I am very happy with my Subaru so far. It safely gets me where I want to go and is very comfortable. I have also slept in it several times when weather was too crappy to pitch a tent. It is a great vehicle for me!


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