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Thanks Doc! - I figured I'd let a Pro handle it!
In my case waiting is not better.
dylar said:44 million more people having access to health care (at half the cost) vs. you and me waiting a little bit is a tradeoff I'm willing to make. I would love to see the evidence that the supposed waiting causes poor health outcomes. We could double the health spending of every other developed country in an effort to reduce waiting if we wanted to.
lets-retire said:They do have access to essential health care. Just not the elective stuff.
Zipper said:Master, the way I see it, your traditional coverage can disappear pretty quickly.
The Insurance Co.'s have a gazillion ways they can terminate you.
Then what?
All I tried to say, without invoking presidents or tinfoil hats, is that if 180+ other countries had a better system then it would be copied.dylar said:I don't think it's controversial to say that insurance and pharmaceutical companies oppose universal care.
There's no tinfoil hat on my head.
If you have information to the contrary, I'd love to hear it.
dylar said:Again, I fail to see how an argument that Americans are sicker (obese, stressed, smokers) than people in other countries is an argument that supports the health care system in this country.
unclemick2 said:Yep - Guilty as charged - 89 yr old Mom last December - kept her alive on the government's nickel(and against her wishes) long enough for my sister to fly out and say goodbye. Then I ordered the plug pulled.
Not something I'm proud of. Rich is right - it's here now.
Charles said:With due respect to Rich, he is one doctor, who happens to be on this board, and is in favor of universal government health care. I know many who are strongly opposed. Let's quit deferring to Rich as the resident expert on this political issue, simply because of his medical training ... I'm sure he will admit there are differences of opinion in his profession.
Then those people who want universal coverage can move to that. The savings of those people who want it will then be enough to subsize everyone else without medical coverage.
Those who like their present traditional coverage can keep it and go on as before.
Everyone gets what they want.
lets-retire said:Has anyone stopped to think that maybe we are the richest/most powerful country in the would because we don't let the lazy suck off those who work their butts off.
Why do you hate non-working spouses, early retirees, and overpaid executiveslets-retire said:maybe we are the richest/most powerful country in the would because we don't let the lazy suck off those who work their butts off.