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Old 12-12-2011, 01:09 PM   #41
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Now if I could just figure out a way to buy the Case Shiller Index .... I'ld be alot happier then I am with the values of my properties over the same time.
As I remember, your operations are in greater Boston, one of the areas that had a particularly strong Case-Shiller index return over the past decade.

Are you mainly in different neighborhoods from what the index for Boston uses, or does the index use mainly expensive homes rather than rental type properties? There must be some systematic difference that explains the discrepancy.

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Old 12-12-2011, 02:03 PM   #42
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Ok, so home prices have not risen in the last decade, agreed. But the title of this thread refers to "Real Estate". If you bought commercial real estate with the Vanguard REIT Index fund in 2001, you would have experienced an average return of over 9% annually since 2001.
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Old 12-13-2011, 10:54 AM   #43
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Bay Area condo bought in 1998 for $270k. Peaked when I sold at the top of the market at 600k. Today sells for $400k.
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Remember that many of these homes that are the same price as a decade ago are significantly upgraded, with granite countertops and all those other excesses of the real estate boom. So the real effect is net negative.
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As I remember, your operations are in greater Boston, one of the areas that had a particularly strong Case-Shiller index return over the past decade.

Are you mainly in different neighborhoods from what the index for Boston uses, or does the index use mainly expensive homes rather than rental type properties? There must be some systematic difference that explains the discrepancy.
I own north of Boston .... some in sothern NH.

My residence is off about 25%. The rentals closer to 40%. Glad I got out of what I could/did. But a little hindsight says I could'a/should'a dumped them all (kind of like looking at dot-com era stocks).

Not sure how Shiller does his data collection ... the market in saturated with REO's but nothing is being sold abosolute. Seems the banks have no reason to post a lost by selling at market value (so they wither-on-the-vine).
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The CME has housing futures based on the CSI.
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