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Re: Medicare running out of money
Old 04-24-2007, 08:24 PM   #21
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My numbers run to 100 also... good news is that when you run the numbers, they will come out the way you want 'em to. If we have replacement parts for everything and the medical technology in place that I think we will. those with the funds will be able to live a long(er) quality life. Check out Kurzweil. He has a number of articles on this.

hmmmm, ... I might be reassessing and boosting the number upwards.
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Re: Medicare running out of money
Old 04-25-2007, 06:33 AM   #22
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Old 04-25-2007, 11:04 AM   #23
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several years ago i read an article in the NY Times of all places on how seniors in florida were going to see specialists to pretty much socialize. they reported some minor problems but their main reason was to socialize with friends also seeing the doctor just to socialize.

i'll guess congress will start rationing access to doctors first to start cutting some costs as well as rationing end of life care which is the most expensive
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Old 04-25-2007, 11:22 AM   #24
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Re: Medicare running out of money

Originally Posted by Bikerdude
I believe the U.S. will eventually institute 'rationing' of health care. It will be wrapped in a nice pretty package called 'health care for all'. Most all of us will receive the same level of care depending on how much the government has to spend and a bureaucrat says you qualify for. If you want faster, or better care, you will pay for it yourself.

Sounds just like Canada, England, France and Italy.
That's pretty much how it worked in Holland when I lived there in the 1980s. Every few blocks had a "house arts," which was a govt paid doctor you had to go to. It only cost a few dollars US to see him, no problem getting an appt, and he was good for 90% of the cases, sniffles, skin rashes, etc. If he couldn't treat it, he refered you to the next level up, the local govt run hospital where they had more extensive testing and treatment facilities, and it was also essentially free. Never experienced that level but from what I heard it was also pretty good. Friend of mine had back surgery there and did well. If you didn't want to use this system, you could opt to see a private physician for big bucks.

I have no idea how much this system cost the Dutch govt, or if it is still this way, but as a pretty healthy person, I had no problem with it. At least it removed the large burden of routine easy to treat cases from the local hospitals.

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