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Old 01-09-2019, 01:39 PM   #261
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Hurt feelings doesn't equal misogyny. I can take a lick and I can dish 'em out too. It's an interesting thread as long as everyone plays clean.
You see hurt feelings? I see a few posters who lump all women into the same category, condemn marriage etc,etc.

All life is full of pendulum swings, ie SAHM getting alimony, custody to Mom and so on. It's gradually starting to swing in the other direction as it should.

Compare this to the METOO movement woman regularly harassed at work, being passed over for promotion because they weren't friendly enough not even being considered for management because of their gender less pay for same work. This is swinging in the other direction finally..not everything is equal and it never will be.

Yet all businesses didn't treat woman like crap, just as all women aren't out to take their ex to the cleaners. Way too much pigeonholing going on here IMO.
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Old 01-09-2019, 01:43 PM   #262
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I find this topic interesting. I'm curious what is missing, or what they expect to find when they leave?
I think for men, and suspect the same for women, that it is a left-over biological imperative to spread one's genetics over as broad an area as possible.

Maybe people's innate desires and urges overcome their social pressure. I think men want to have sex with someone new. A female nurse friend of mine told me that she read that most sex-related heart attacks are with a new partner. It's more exciting with someone new, right? I have many urges which I don't follow-up on. I tend to look at every woman I see. I don't do anything about it. My wife doesn't like it because she is embarrassed but knows full-well that I am not going to do anything. I am not aggressive. I can't seem to not look. Being male has its drawbacks.

[QUOTE=hausfrau;2170355]Maybe my husband will blindside me one day and ask for a divorce. Maybe I've just been assuming I'm happily married. /QUOTE]
One thing that every one of my bosses agreed on was that I talk too much.

My wife does not have that problem. Really hard initially when on a date. We overcame it. She agrees with my bosses but unlike for them, for her it's not a deal-breaker!

I think maybe you should talk to him about it. Rather than just hope for the best and maybe be surprised you could fix a small problem before it grows insurmountable.

My wife, who doesn't talk much, who says I make up for her, grew depressed and we talked about it and we made some adjustments and lived through it. It was sort of a mid-life crisis-ey period for both of us. We each changed some of our meds and behavior and we are happier than ever. She's quitting her last job this Friday!

BTW, we watch TV and there are a lot of real-life murder shows on Friday and Saturdays. I always refer to them as how-to shows. That prompted me to make a pact with her that we would not kill each other and just get a quickie divorce! We are not serious. Neither of us would be able to function w/o the other as we have been together sine 16/17 and would be lost souls.

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Uh-uh, gaslighting me won't work. None of my posts gives evidence that I am unaware that many people are too selfish and untrustworthy to make good mates for good people.

Indeed, I referred to con artists of every gender, and implied that it is everyone's responsibility to be savvy enough to suss them out and not be fooled by their charades.

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I admit all of your gender is not plotting and worthless. ....

What I would like is if you were aware that your kind nature is not shared by ALL women. .
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I tend to look at every woman I see. I don't do anything about it. My wife doesn't like it because she is embarrassed but knows full-well that I am not going to do anything. I am not aggressive. I can't seem to not look. Being male has its drawbacks.
Mike, you don't really think this (bolded) is unusual, right?
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There is a book on Gray Divorce and why it happens. It's very common these days:

https://www.amazon.com/Gray-Divorce-.../dp/0520295323

I just checked this out from the library. It sounds like an interesting read.
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I just checked this out from the library. It sounds like an interesting read.
In an earlier thread, I recall (guess here) that about 1/2 of today's divorces in the U.S. are considered Gray Divorces. Scary as those people are over 60.
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https://www.thestreet.com/markets/am...HOO&yptr=yahoo

And now Bezos and MacKenzie are divorcing. OUCH! That one will be costly. At least they don't have children to screw up for the duration of paying the lawyers.
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Mike, you don't really think this (bolded) is unusual, right?

My best friend ruined my life. We were both admiring an especially
nice looking woman and he said jokingly that he'd like to get to know her better, and of course I agreed. Then he ruined my life by saying he's sure he's exactly what she's looking for. old, fat, bald. Now every time I see a beautiful woman those words come back to me.
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And now Bezos and MacKenzie are divorcing. OUCH! That one will be costly. At least they don't have children to screw up for the duration of paying the lawyers.
If he would have stayed single, he could have kept 139 billion to himself. Perhaps he thought it would never happen to him.

I would think he wouldn't notice the loss of 70 billion, at his level.

Now MMM, thats got to hurt.

For all of you readers that don't have Bezos money (none do), don't make Bezos' mistake.
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If he would have stayed single, he could have kept 139 billion to himself. Perhaps he thought it would never happen to him.

I would think he wouldn't notice the loss of 70 billion, at his level.

At least he won't have to couch surf at his buddy's house.
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Hi. Glad you posted that.

You mentioned it takes two to tango. Let's take a look at a serious subject. Spousal abuse. Violent spousal abuse. Now, the next time a woman is victimized, should she be told "it takes two to tango?".

So since we all know that sometimes a victim is innocent and has no fault in a situation, we clearly see it doesn't take two to tango.

I prevent spousal abuse at every opportunity. I hope the rest of you do the same.
This is another area where male victims are almost completely overlooked and there's a myth that almost all victims of abuse are female. Some studies have shown that up to half of spousal abuse victims are male...other studies show less. Try to think of the last time (if ever) that the abuse of a male partner made the headlines.

CDC Study: More Men than Women Victims of Partner Abuse SAVE: Stop Abusive and Violent Environments
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Mike, you don't really think this (bolded) is unusual, right?
Well, I do it in front of my wife and awkwardly, or so I have been told. Even some of my male friends commented on it.

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All life is full of pendulum swings

Compare this to the METOO movement woman regularly harassed at work, being passed over for promotion because they weren't friendly enough
Now companies are implementing new rules for dealing with the #metoo movement. No more one on one meetings with women, less mentoring, no business supper, ect.

Measures/countermeasures
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What's your point if you have one...
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I notice you have a habit of truncating people's post to slant the original posts.
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Now companies are implementing new rules for dealing with the #metoo movement. No more one on one meetings with women, less mentoring, no business supper, ect.

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The end result of this will be men avoiding women at work.
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I notice you have a habit of truncating people's post to slant the original posts.

Feel free to truncate mine if so desired.
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My last 10 years of work, I never had one on one meetings with males or females when there was negative news to deliver. Heard of too many bad situations in my prior job.
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Indeed, I referred to con artists of every gender, and implied that it is everyone's responsibility to be savvy enough to suss them out
My suss meter is in the shop.
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