Portal Forums Links Register FAQ Community Calendar Log in

Join Early Retirement Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Murrica the overworked
Old 12-06-2005, 03:45 PM   #1
Moderator Emeritus
Nords's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Oahu
Posts: 26,860
Murrica the overworked

Business Week has an interesting editorial on higher productivity being accomplished mostly on the efforts of the workers without being reflected in their paychecks.

"Yet very little of the efficiency gains is being directly passed on to workers. Since the end of 2003, average real wages have fallen by 3.2%, while productivity is up by 5.1%. Even managers -- supposedly the best-off sector of the workforce -- have seen a 4% decline in real wages since the end of 2003, despite the fact that the unemployment rate for managers is a meager 2.2%.
What's worse, Americans are working harder and harder, even as they're getting paid less and less. The November employment report, released Dec. 2, showed that 18.3% of the workforce puts in 49 hours or more per week. That's up from 17.8% a year ago."

Admittedly 0.5% is well within the error of the imprecise data collected by the Dept of Labor (heck, even 50% is within their error factor), but it paints a bleak picture.

It's almost enough to make the average Murrican stop spending & start saving. Not quite, but almost.
__________________
*

Co-author (with my daughter) of “Raising Your Money-Savvy Family For Next Generation Financial Independence.”
Author of the book written on E-R.org: "The Military Guide to Financial Independence and Retirement."

I don't spend much time here— please send a PM.
Nords is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Re: Murrica the overworked
Old 12-06-2005, 04:34 PM   #2
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Eagle43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: DFW
Posts: 2,016
Re: Murrica the overworked

I never noticed!
__________________
Resist much. Obey Little. . . . Ed Abbey

Disclaimer: My Posts are for my amusement only.
Eagle43 is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: Murrica the overworked
Old 12-06-2005, 05:14 PM   #3
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 3,875
Re: Murrica the overworked

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nords

What's worse, Americans are working harder and harder, even as they're getting paid less and less.
Sounds to me like good management. If I was on the board, large bonuses would be in order.

JG
MRGALT2U is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: Murrica the overworked
Old 12-06-2005, 05:19 PM   #4
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Lawn chair in Texas
Posts: 14,183
Re: Murrica the overworked

Well, treat me like crap, make me work more for less, etc. and you'll get what you paid for...
__________________
Have Funds, Will Retire

...not doing anything of true substance...
HFWR is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: Murrica the overworked
Old 12-06-2005, 05:56 PM   #5
Recycles dryer sheets
Jeb-NY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Lost State of Franklin
Posts: 424
Re: Murrica the overworked

I made the decision about 20 years ago when I was offered a promotion with some leadership responsibility that I wasn't going to sacrifice my free time and family for the job. I told my boss that and gave him the chance to look elsewhere and he still promoted me. I figured no more than 45 hours a week and no home work or weekends. If once in a while there was a fire to put out ok but not all the time. It worked till I got a new boss and was preassured for more hours and even weekend meetings. I persisted and got some mediocre reviews till I got a better boss. It probably cost me $100k over the years, but family didn't feel neglected and I saw a lot of other people burning out. Well I lasted and even cut back to where I seldom work more than 40 hours a week.

Now I'm about to jump into ER with most of my sanity. Still in talks with the boss on when it works best for him and the project. Maybe as soon as the end of the year. Now if I only had more faith that I'm also FI. The pros say yes FIRECalc says yes. I guess we will see how it goes.

Jeb
Jeb-NY is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: Murrica the overworked
Old 12-06-2005, 05:58 PM   #6
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,375
Re: Murrica the overworked

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagle43
I never noticed!*
And that's why you'll probably exceed your goal of 100 yrs. old.
Jarhead* is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: Murrica the overworked
Old 12-06-2005, 06:09 PM   #7
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,343
Re: Murrica the overworked

Quote:
Originally Posted by MRGALT2U
Sounds to me like good management. If I was on the board, large bonuses would be in order.

JG
Nothing like raiding the company treasury coffers.
__________________
I look to the present moment because that's where I live my life.
MJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: Murrica the overworked
Old 12-06-2005, 06:11 PM   #8
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Spanky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 4,455
Re: Murrica the overworked

Since carpooling last year, we have been arriving work at 7am and leaving at 5:30pm. That's 9.5 hours per day or 48 hours a week. Even with those hours at work, we still had to put in more hours at nights and weekends. At out last review, I received a 4% raise and my carpool parnter recevied 5%. These rates were considered generous since the average was 3%. The morale of the story is that it does not pay to work extra hours.
__________________
May we live in peace and harmony and be free from all human sufferings.
Spanky is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Overworked & under-gunned? Nords Other topics 0 11-15-2005 11:56 PM
The Overworked American NYC Guy FIRE and Money 13 06-27-2005 10:53 PM

» Quick Links

 
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:20 PM.
 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.