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Old 03-17-2006, 01:26 PM   #1
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VGSIX - REIT
VGPMX - METALS
VGENX - ENERGY
VEIEX - EMERGING

Worst YTD: PCRIX - COMMODITY

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Old 03-17-2006, 01:57 PM   #2
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Best:target retirement 2045 (5.33%) with windsor II (4.84) right behind it.

Worst: Vanguard high yield corporate (1.5%)
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Old 03-17-2006, 03:23 PM   #3
 
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According to Quicken:

VISGX - Small Cap Growth - 52.13%

But that can't be right -- the price has only gone up about 8%. I hate Quicken!
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Old 03-17-2006, 03:32 PM   #4
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Is this % from when you first purchased the fund?
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No, I told Quicken to give me YTD returns. I noticed in the Quicken report it says this at the bottom: "Securities held less than a year can yield inaccurate return calculations." If it can't figure out the rate of return, it shouldn't display it.

It's not rocket science -- but apparently Quicken can't handle this.
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Old 03-17-2006, 04:04 PM   #6
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Yow that sucks.

But you reminded me that I didnt check my IRA, so I was wrong. Best performer is small cap value at 7.21% ytd.
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My REIT funds - FRESX & CREEX are leading my portfolio by showing a 13% YTD performance.

Gosh - those REITs are like energizer bunnies!!!

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Best fund: ICF (REIT)

Worst: PCRIX (Commodity)

Best Stock: CAMH (up 6x).

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It's not rocket science -- but apparently Quicken can't handle this.
It gave you what you asked for, not necessarily what you wanted.

Quicken's performance numbers on some reports are an annualized internal rate of return (IRR). What you're looking at is the % your investment would have been up if it continued that rocket sled through 31 Dec 06.

If you go to the "Investing Center's" "Portfolio Display" (which may also be CTRL-U on your version of Quicken), click the Options button and Customize, you can select ROI%YTD which should give you a better number... like 10%.
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It gave you what you asked for, not necessarily what you wanted.

Quicken's performance numbers on some reports are an annualized internal rate of return (IRR).* What you're looking at is the % your investment would have been up if it continued that rocket sled through 31 Dec 06.

If you go to the "Investing Center's" "Portfolio Display" (which may also be CTRL-U on your version of Quicken), click the Options button and Customize, you can select ROI%YTD which should give you a better number... like 10%.
Been looking to make this happen forever on Quicken 2002, but still cannot make any of that work. Either I have a mental block trying to find how to do it, or Quicken had no concept of the idea for 2002.
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Quicken's performance numbers on some reports are an annualized internal rate of return (IRR). What you're looking at is the % your investment would have been up if it continued that rocket sled through 31 Dec 06.
That's how I'd like it to work. I always like to deal in annualized returns. But here's how I calculate it:

27172.33 / 24665.27 = 1.1016 = 10.16% increase

That's for 3.5 months. Multiply by 12/3.5 and it comes to 34.85%.

Is it because I leave out the compounding that I get 34.85% and Quicken gets 59.19 %?
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That's how I'd like it to work.* I always like to deal in annualized returns.
I did ($27,172.33 - 24,665.27)/$24,665.27 x 365 / (31+28+17) = 48.8% which, for daily compounding instead of monthly, is closer by a hand grenade.

But I think the actual number used by Quicken is derived from daily compounding of FV = PV (1+%)^^n

and % = [nth root of (FV/PV)] -1 = [(365/76)th root of ($27172.33/24665.27)] -1
* * * * * *= 59.186951%

Which is highly precise, at least as accurate, yet utterly meaningless.


As for our retirement portfolio, the S&P600 Small-cap Value ETF (IJS) is up 11.5% YTD and I hope it rests on its laurels for the remaining 289 days.

Tweedy, Browne Global Value (TBGVX) is up 8% despite holding at least 20% cash.

On the individual stock side, Tate & Lyle PLC (TATYY), the maker of Splenda, is up 9%, Sun (SUNW) is up 13%, Dolby (DLB) is up 20% (sell!), and that #$%^ing heartbreaker Nortel (NT) has managed to shed yet another 4%. Everything else is up 1-5%.
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Thanks, Nords. It's good to know that Quicken isn't just making random mistakes.
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It's good to know that Quicken isn't just making random mistakes.
I didn't say that!!! Just not on this one particular calculation...
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Cash Flows
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& Withdrawals Dates Balance XIRR Return YTD Return
$24,655.27 Jan 1/06
Mar 17/06 ($27,172.22) 60.5% 10.2%
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OK, I'll bite. I am using Yahoo's chart for data ending 2/28:

MINDX 9.91% (India)
FICDX 6.19% (Canada)

These are not core holdings, relatively small $$ to juce up balanced funds that tend to plod along.
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FUND 1/3/2006 3/17/2006 GAIN %
CEE $43.65 $49.51 $5.86 13.4%
EFV $58.16 $61.87 $3.71 6.4%
FDM $21.00 $22.36 $1.36 6.5%
GLD $53.12 $55.12 $2.00 3.8%
IGR $16.59 $18.07 $1.48 8.9%
IWC $51.95 $56.60 $4.65 9.0%
IWN $67.23 $73.21 $5.98 8.9%
JKL $71.71 $77.15 $5.44 7.6%
PCL $36.84 $37.46 $0.62 1.7%
PWY $15.76 $16.71 $0.95 6.0%
PZI $15.33 $16.59 $1.26 8.2%
RWR $68.97 $79.09 $10.12 14.7%
TIP $103.04 $101.89 -$1.15 -1.1%
VBR $61.82 $66.80 $4.98 8.1%
VEIEX $19.67 $21.08 $1.41 7.2%
VWO $62.90 $67.19 $4.29 6.8%

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Fuzzy math, HFWR? Or your RWR is not the same as my RWR which is up about 15% YTD.
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Vanguard REIT Index - 16.7%
Vanguard Emerging Market Index - 10.5%

As of 3/17 per the Vanguard web site.

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Fuzzy math, HFWR?* Or your RWR is not the same as my RWR which is up about 15% YTD.
Me fuzzy?* :P

10.12 gain divided by the 1/3/06 close of 68.97, let's see, carry the one...

Oops, operator error...*

I will update...* :P

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