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Old 09-08-2005, 07:08 PM   #21
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I've heard glowing reports concerning electricity from nuclear power.
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I've heard glowing reports concerning electricity from nuclear power.
Nuclear power truly blows the competition away
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Good thing I'm Canadian because I like the house COLD We keep the thermostat set around 60F. We're not too worried about our heating bills....they will be higher but definitely still below what the "average" consumer uses I believe!
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60 F is cold except for the nights. During the day, we set it at 68 F
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I rent, and I have gas heat. Last year, the Jan gas bill was almost $150... this year will be nuts. I'm thinking about buying two oil filled radiators and using those to heat up the house.
I live in a house in the midwest, my bills have been

03/04
Dec 129.22
Jan 188.80
Feb 146.16
Mar 103.12
04/05
Dec 189.14
Jan 175.14
Feb 134.78
Mar 143.20


I have a 94+% efficient Natural Gas furnace, and an adjustable thermostat, so that helps. Cost / Therm is up versus last year, but not 70%. But the cost has remained strong through the summer.

We'll see.
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We keep the thermostat set around 60F
If I could get agreement on that low, I would save a bundle. I cant even get agreement at 68 is ok and someone is always pumping it up to 70.
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I'm also in the midwest with bills similar to moghopper. Our energy company is predicting gas increases of 20-40% this winter.
We also try to keep our thermostat at 68-69 during the day and 62 at night. When we're home we try to burn wood in the Kozyheat as much as possible.
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I've turned into a real cold-sissy as I've gotten older. 60 degrees at night is fine for me, but sitting on the couch reading, my hands get real cold even at 68 degrees. And that's with flannel-lined pants, sweater, and a wool hat on. What's it going to be like when I'm 70?
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I've turned into a real cold-sissy as I've gotten older.* 60 degrees at night is fine for me, but sitting on the couch reading, my hands get real cold even at 68 degrees.* And that's with flannel-lined pants, sweater, and a wool hat on.* What's it going to be like when I'm 70?
This thread reminds me that our 12-year-old has been raised without ever playing the following traditional popular family games:
"CLOSE THAT DOOR, you're letting out all the heat!!"
"Who's been messing with the thermostat!?!"
"Today, kids, we learn how to install storm windows!"
"Hey, son, lemme show you how to winterize your car."
"No, you have to let a trickle of water run out or the pipe will freeze and burst."
"I don't care, I'm your mother and you're making me cold, so put your sweater on."

Plus these superhighway favorites:
"Are we there yet?"
"He's looking at me!!!"
"But, honey, we just passed a rest station 10 minutes ago and the next one isn't for another hour."
"I don't care how far we've driven today, so help me if you kids don't behave I'll turn this car around and the vacation will be OVER."
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"What the @#$% are you doing, were you born in a barn?!?"
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Another one I like ...

"close the door! I am not heating the world!"
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BTW I have very little confidence in that 71% increase figure.* I'm guessing that by December prices will be at their typical December levels.
Not a chance!* Forward NYMEX natural gas prices for January 2006 delivery are around $12 / million cubic feet.* "Typical" historical prices are around $3 / mcf and last year's price was around $6 / mcf.* Prior to Katrina Natural Gas for January delivery was about $10 / Mcf.

Get ready for higher heating and electric bills to go along with your higher gasoline costs.
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Not a chance!* Forward NYMEX natural gas prices for January 2006 delivery are around $12 / million cubic feet.* "Typical" historical prices are around $3 / mcf and last year's price was around $6 / mcf.* Prior to Katrina Natural Gas for January delivery was about $10 / Mcf.*

Get ready for higher heating and electric bills to go along with your higher gasoline costs.
Yup, some Analysts are even quoting $15 this winter. For the thin-blooded types on the board, get ready to layer on some extra sweaters.
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My very first job was working for Owens Corning (long before asbestos litigation killed them). Worked on superinsulated houses. R40 walls, R60 ceilings, special vapor and air infiltration barriers, humidity control, gas backfilled low-e windows, air (heat) exchangers, the whole bit. Even built my first house that way. Doesn't take huge $ to make a house very energy efficient.

Today's houses, big and small, are mostly built like crap with respect to energy even though the technology has been out there. Even when proper materials are spec'd they are often installed poorly (air infiltration wraps are a good example). I suspect that will change. [Northern Europeans have been building highly energy efficient homes for decades].
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