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Old 09-23-2006, 03:56 PM   #21
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...scorpion stings of which I have received two this summer. Those critters are a damn nuisance when ya find 'em in your sink several times a month.
When we got palmetto bugs in our house (when the summer weather turned colder), I got someone to caulk/flash better where the plumbing enters the house from the crawl space, and had DH put a glue board next to the pipes under the dishwasher. Worked great--wonder if it would help with the scorpions.
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Re: One more reason
Old 09-23-2006, 04:55 PM   #22
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I see the problem.
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A perfect example of sticking it to you at both ends…and why leasing is a lousy idea, especially in TX.
You see, if the vehicle would have been a pickumup truck, there would have been no Texas problem. Yankee cars should be heavily taxed so that native Texans can have lower taxes/fees/executions.

It's what we prefer.
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All non-Texans read here:

You really don’t want to move here. Today I chaperoned a busload of middle schools students who went to the beach for seashore cleanup. The jellyfish were huge - I saw one as big as a Volkswagen. And the rays were wingtip to wingtip, with their deadly tails snapping at the children. It was terrible. Stay in California.


Sekrit message fer Texans – espeshully REWahoo:

I think your BIL needs to hike back to the County Tax Assessor’s office and get himself a refund:

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Vehicle Leased Outside Texas

When a vehicle is leased in another state and the lessee brings it to Texas for public highway use, the lessee (as the operator) owes motor vehicle use tax.

The use tax is based on the price the lessor paid for the vehicle with credit given for any tax the lessor or the lessee paid to another state.

Effective September 1, 1999, a vehicle previously leased in another state and subsequently brought into Texas for use by a new resident/lessee may be registered for the new resident use tax of $90. Emphasis added
http://www.window.state.tx.us/taxinfo/audit/mv/10.htm#vl_out

The way I read this, if your BIL was already a Texas resident and leased a car out of state, then he would have to pay a use fee / tax on the total amount that the car cost. However, even then he would be allowed to apply the amount he paid to the other state as a credit. But, since he was a non-Texas resident, he should be allowed to title the car here for the $90 fee.

In response to the hijacked part of this thread that dealt with the death penalty and the deterrence effect:

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And don't forget, it is the leading state in executions.

Minnesota: No death penalty, 2.2 murders per hundred thousand
Texas: Death penalty, 6.2 murders per hundred thousand

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/state/
From the same source and the UCR:

Washington DC: No death penalty, 35.4 murders per hundred thousand
West Virginia: No death penalty, 4.4 murders per hundred thousand

Montana: Death penalty, 1.9 murders per hundred thousand
Oregon: Death penalty, 2.2 murders per hundred thousand
Utah: Death penalty, 2.3 murders per hundred thousand
New Hampshire: Death penalty, 1.4 murders per hundred thousand
Nebraska: Death penalty, 2.5 murders per hundred thousand

There are a lot of variables in determining crime rates. And yes, climate is one of them - so those snow days up there in Minnesota do count.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/index.html

It might be better to examine crime rate trends. 2004-2005, Texas violent crime down 1.9%, Minnesota up 2.6%.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/directo...ucr%202005.pdf
http://www.dps.state.mn.us/bca/CJIS/...05/MCI2005.pdf
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I see the problem.
You see, if the vehicle would have been a pickumup truck, there would have been no Texas problem. Yankee cars should be heavily taxed so that native Texans can have lower taxes/fees/executions.

It's what we prefer.
heh heh heh. His other vehicle (not leased) is a pickup. Only a small fee to register that one.

(I told him he was making a mistake when he moved from TX to OH 30 years ago. But would he listen to his BIL? Nooooooooo.... )

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All non-Texans read here:

You really don’t want to move here. Today I chaperoned a busload of middle schools students who went to the beach for seashore cleanup. The jellyfish were huge - I saw one as big as a Volkswagen. And the rays were wingtip to wingtip, with their deadly tails snapping at the children. It was terrible. Stay in California.
You forgot to mention the growing population of deadly salt water scorpions, a recent mutation believed to be the result of millions of "regular" scorpions washed down sink drains after stinging TX residents.

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Sekrit message fer Texans – espeshully REWahoo:

I think your BIL needs to hike back to the County Tax Assessor’s office and get himself a refund:
http://www.window.state.tx.us/taxinfo/audit/mv/10.htm#vl_out

The way I read this, if your BIL was already a Texas resident and leased a car out of state, then he would have to pay a use fee / tax on the total amount that the car cost. However, even then he would be allowed to apply the amount he paid to the other state as a credit. But, since he was a non-Texas resident, he should be allowed to title the car here for the $90 fee.
He wishes it was that easy...

Unfortunately, the $90 road use fee he paid is in addition to the sales tax screwing payment:

Motor Vehicle Sales, Use, and Rental Tax

There is a 6.25 percent use tax on the selling price (less trade-in allowance) of a motor vehicle purchased outside of the state and later brought into the state for use on Texas highways by a Texas resident. The tax also applies to vehicles leased in another state and registered in Texas by a Texas resident.

He did get credit for the tax he paid on the lease in Ohio or his $1,300 tab would have been almost twice as much.
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Hey!* Be careful about saying things like that.

If we don't tell them about the fire ants, scorpions, rattlers, dust storms, hailstorms, tornadoes, killer bees, mosquitoes, ticks, chiggers, tarantulas, copperheads, cottonmouths, rabid skunks, wild hogs, oppressive heat & humidity, bleak desolate scenery, dirty beaches, polluted air, droughts, wildfires, water shortages, recurring floods, rednecks, unbelievably high property taxes, and lack of real estate appreciation...they might all move here!
Not to mention Ross Perot, Rick Perry, Clayton Powell, and GW Bush. Oh, and JFK was killed here.* Everybody's armed, it's legal here.* It's a very red state with no blue tint in sight.* Very religious, at least publicly.* No casinos allowed, thank you very much.* We don't do casinos, we're .......insert your religious preference here.* Of course, we drive to Louisiana and Oklahoma and gamble there, taking a lot of good and needed* money out of state. We don't do welfare much, and if Kinky is right, our education system is dead last.* So, come on down.*
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Most of you are familiar with my ongoing “101 reasons you don’t want to move to Texas” rant. I just discovered reason number 102.
Just the fact that it is Texas has always been enough for me

Now if I could just get about 30 million additional Califonians to move there, Oregon, Colorado, Minnesota, etc. I could be real happy where I'm at

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There are a lot of variables in determining crime rates. And yes, climate is one of them - so those snow days up there in Minnesota do count.
I think it has more to do with it being a "blue state"....you know, liberal/progressive values and give more to the poor keeps them from being angry criminals
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A comparison of overall taxation by state, projected for 2006:
http://www.retirementliving.com/RLtaxburdens.html
Interesting. *The state I moved from ranked at the 70% place (with 1% being highest), while the state I moved to is at 25%. *The first taxes only income, the other only has a sales tax. *I know the latter has a higher % of _high_ earners, but there isn't a lot of difference in income per capatia. *Humm...
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No casinos allowed, thank you very much.
I'm curious, Eagle, I thought Utah & Hawaii were the only no-gambling states. Does Texas have Indian-reservation gambling (or for that matter, any Indian reservations?) or some form of state lottery?
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I'm curious, Eagle, I thought Utah & Hawaii were the only no-gambling states. Does Texas have Indian-reservation gambling (or for that matter, any Indian reservations?) or some form of state lottery?
Alabama?

Ohio doesn't have casinos.
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You can buy lottery ticket in Texas. No casinos.
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You can buy lottery ticket in Texas. No casinos.
Actually, there is one casino on the Kickapoo Indian Reservation in Eagle Pass.

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Corpus Christi has very nice weather and beaches.

"All you can eat shrimp" - I am there!
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Actually, there is one casino on the Kickapoo Indian Reservation in Eagle Pass.
Plus gambling on races at the horse and dog tracks.
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I defer to REW.* Didn't know about the Kickapoo.*

But, my main point is that because of influence bought by lobbyists, sought and praised by the religious right and enforced by Texas politicians, tons of money go out of state.
See Jack Abramahoff and Ralph Reed.

http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/indiangaming.html

http://www.cleanuptexaspolitics.com/node/view/333
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Abramoff and Scanlon did not want to see Cornyn discouraged or slowed down. Their biggest paying client was the Coushatta tribe of Louisiana, which considered any casino in Texas a threat to its Interstate 10 gambling market. Cornyn’s lawsuit was the quickest way to put the Tiguas out of business. If they could help Cornyn kill the Tigua casino, they would have a federal court order declaring Indian gaming in Texas illegal. The ruling would also shut down the casino the Alabama Coushatta Tribe was trying to get up and going in Livingston, Texas, 75 miles north of Houston. (The Alabama Coushattas never made it back to Alabama because Sam Houston offered them land in appreciation for their help in the Texas war of independence. They belong to the same tribal family that includes the Coushattas in Louisiana, share the same blood and customs, and sometimes intermarry with their cousins on the other side of the Sabine River. But to the Louisiana Coushatta tribe, preserving their regional Indian gaming monopoly was more important than the family ties that bind them to their Texas relatives.)

Abramoff was in a difficult situation. It was unseemly for the Coushattas in Louisiana to work openly to deny their desperately poor Texas cousins the income a casino would provide. It would be difficult for Abramoff to sign the Tiguas as clients later if they knew he had worked to shut down their casino. And he marketed himself as a pro-Indian-gaming lobbyist. For various reasons, openly leading an anti-gaming crusade in Texas on behalf of the Louisiana Coushattas was not an option.

Ralph Reed was the perfect cover.
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When Reed left the Christian Coalition in 1997 to start his own company, he announced he would only accept clients who oppose gambling, abortion, and higher taxes. Four years later he was doing deals with Jack Abramoff and Mike Scanlon, and his company, Century Strategies, was awash in money befouled by gaming tables or slot machines.

“Reed’s a Christian and he’s too sanctimonious to take money directly from a casino operator,” said a Louisiana political consultant who works on gambling issues. “But he’ll take it from lobbyists who take it from casino operators.” There was no way, despite Reed’s denials, the consultant said, that he could be unaware of Abramoff’s clients.
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We do have a state lottery, which has its own problems.*

I find it DUMB that money flows to Louisiana, New Mexico, Las Vegas and Oklahoma which ought to be used in this state.* Oops, too much preaching.* I'm going back to my 2nd cup of coffee.

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But, my main point is that because of influence bought by lobbyists, sought and praised by the religious right and enforced by Texas politicians, tons of money go out of state.
See Jack Abramahoff and Ralph Reed.
Ironically Las Vegas (and the airlines) have a huge vested interest in keeping Hawaii a no-gambling state. I'm sure the same could be said for the two or three Utahians sneaking across state lines.

I'm sure some MBA-finance wizard is trying to figure out how to boost revenues at a reasonable cost by recreating Las Vegas in Hawaii... but even the cruise ships go without casinos here.

I think I'd go through a month of playing high-stakes progressive-betting blackjack before I lost interest (or got driven out by the cigar smoke) and headed back to the beach. But, oh the social problems that the state would develop.
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