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Old 11-30-2004, 06:53 AM   #21
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Well, this is interesting as I must now confess
that (although I have spent relatively little time there)
I was apparently right on about it being kind of a liberal bastion
in a sea of bible belt types, who are packin' heat and killin'
meat and driving pick ups, etc etc. Guess Austin is one of the few places in Texas I will endeavor to avoid

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Re: Property taxes...whats not included?
Old 11-30-2004, 07:24 AM   #22
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Re: Property taxes...whats not included?

I love reading your posts - in fact, I think you might even be a closet liberal. Don't limit your experiences - if you come to Austin be sure and have breakfast at "Magnolia Cafe" and finish the evening at "Broken Spoke" - you'll get "COOL" at Magnolia Cafe and "Heat, Meat, and Pickups" at Broken Spoke.

BTW - You might even see some "Slackers" on Guadalupe.

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Old 11-30-2004, 11:56 AM   #23
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Re: Property taxes...whats not included?

I have to jump in and defend Austin - I consider it one of the few parts of Texas that is creative, educated, cultural, and yes even liberal. It is truly nice to be able to live in a community that accepts different cultures, and different people without the typical "bible belt" hypocrisy you find in most of the South. *Most of the area is very open minded and those that are not tend to group themselves in a common area and just look the other way.

Austin is COOL!!

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For the record, I actually have really enjoyed my time in Austin. I especially like the live music bars downtown -- great salsa danciing and unbeatable atmosphere.

I read a book called "Rise of Creative Class" by Joe? Florida, a prof at Carnegie Mellon who spends lots of time consuluting with cities around the globe who want to build up yeasty high tech and entrepreneurial environments, and by any definition, most states would kill to get what Austin has going for it. Californicated or not, it is where the good jobs and growth are heading -- people who are still working (and plenty more who aren't) find this sort of environment stimulating and success-reinforcing, and would gladly put up with the higher taxes to have it.

As a veteran of Berkeley, London, NY, Cambridge (Mass) and Tokyo, (and now for 10 years Westchester County just north of NY) I know the allure of these environments -- Detroit didn't have 'it', and I had to look hard for 'it' in west Miami though South Beach has got 'it' now. In Detroit, we used to drive an hour to Ann Arbor just to sniff the air and look for espresso and a real bookstore in 1990. Maybe someday I'll get over this blue-state, high-tax need, but can't be sure how or when)

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Old 12-02-2004, 10:15 AM   #24
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I just wanted to say I love Austin and do not plan to leave the area - just moveing 10 miles from town into a the smaller house where the property tax is only $3000 a year. When we retire we will have the time to drive in if we have to.

I was just kidding about the ranch (even though we had friends that just did that this last year). They are only 1.5 hours for town and drive into work once a week.

I have only lived in Houston and Austin and for me Austin wins hands down.
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