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This question is for someone else I know who has been retired for some time. He was not a big saver, but he has a paid-off house, a small pension and some real estate investments with variable income. He and his wife have gotten by comfortably mostly on Social Security and in the past few years his income has been so low that he hasn't even had to file a return.
For 2006, his real estate investment had enough income that he had to file and pay about $100 of federal taxes. He's expecting another real estate deal to go through by the end of the year that may produce sizable income, short-term gains maybe in the $80k range. And then he'll owe some significant taxes.
I have urged him to set up withholding for the taxes at least equal to the small amount of his 2006 taxes so the IRS won't even consider applying a penalty to his 2007 taxes for under-withholding. But he interprets the estimated tax worksheet as allowing him to get by without any penalties even though he has no withholding. Maybe he's correct (provided he makes an estimated tax payment by Jan 15, since the windfall is late in the year). But I think that even if he gets by without a penalty, it will be because he makes a trip down to the IRS to explain why he shouldn't have to pay one. Personally, I'd withhold the small amount to avoid the risk of a trip even if I knew absolutely for sure that no withholding was needed.
Does anyone have an experience with a similar situation?
Also just in case I can talk him into going the withholding route, does the SSA have any provision for state withholding? Looking at their website, it appears that all they'll setup for is federal withholding.
For 2006, his real estate investment had enough income that he had to file and pay about $100 of federal taxes. He's expecting another real estate deal to go through by the end of the year that may produce sizable income, short-term gains maybe in the $80k range. And then he'll owe some significant taxes.
I have urged him to set up withholding for the taxes at least equal to the small amount of his 2006 taxes so the IRS won't even consider applying a penalty to his 2007 taxes for under-withholding. But he interprets the estimated tax worksheet as allowing him to get by without any penalties even though he has no withholding. Maybe he's correct (provided he makes an estimated tax payment by Jan 15, since the windfall is late in the year). But I think that even if he gets by without a penalty, it will be because he makes a trip down to the IRS to explain why he shouldn't have to pay one. Personally, I'd withhold the small amount to avoid the risk of a trip even if I knew absolutely for sure that no withholding was needed.
Does anyone have an experience with a similar situation?
Also just in case I can talk him into going the withholding route, does the SSA have any provision for state withholding? Looking at their website, it appears that all they'll setup for is federal withholding.