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10-02-2007, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BooBooBear
A complete disconnect from reality the market. Housing is in the tank crude is over 80 and headed toward 100 a barrel. gasoline will be over 4 dollars a gallon next spring and summer driving season and housing will still be sinking the dollars is toast, yes everything is roses.
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Are you the same guy that said $70 oil and $3/gal gas was going to send
us into a depression a year or 2 ago?
The market doesn't like uncertainty:
Citibank announced
FED jump in
Non of the presidential candidates is calling for a rollback in
15% tax rates
Last inflation readings were low
all good, of course it only takes 1 unexpected bad news item
to derail the train....
TJ
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10-02-2007, 12:11 PM
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Full time employment: Posting here.
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sighing
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Originally Posted by TromboneAl
Ah, but if it goes up 2% tomorrow...
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It looks like small is going to be up again today (is up in mid afternoon Eastern time) so maybe I didn't pick the best day to sell. But hey, it was good enough.
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10-02-2007, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BooBooBear
A complete disconnect from reality the market. Housing is in the tank crude is over 80 and headed toward 100 a barrel. gasoline will be over 4 dollars a gallon next spring and summer driving season and housing will still be sinking the dollars is toast, yes everything is roses.
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...and my "full faith and credit" accounts are yielding more than I will need for retirement: problem what to do with the excess, perhaps Int'l equities, but but the foreign markets are so linked to ours. Back to plan one: wait until spring '08 (or even '09) to decide how far to get back into equities.
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10-02-2007, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by teejayevans
US goes down, don't you think we'll bring the rest of the world with it?
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Maybe, maybe not. Japan's endless economic night doesn't seem to have particlarly hurt the US, BRIC, or much of anyone else, and they are a quite large economy.
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10-02-2007, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TromboneAl
Even without today's gain, I've averaged over 13% annual gain for the last five years. True, the start of the five year period was right about at the bottom, but it's still good to notice and appreciate good performance when it happens.
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No comments .. except on your trip to southern cal. It seems that you had a lot of fun traveling to various beaches and visiting families and friends.
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10-03-2007, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by brewer12345
Maybe, maybe not. Japan's endless economic night doesn't seem to have particlarly hurt the US, BRIC, or much of anyone else, and they are a quite large economy.
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Yea, but we account for 1/3 of Japan's exports and Japan's economy is only
1/4 of ours. They only account for ~10% of our imports.
Ditto for China, Germany, US stops buying their goods, they will feel the
pain.
TJ
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10-03-2007, 08:10 PM
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WHOOEEEE, cher! I got nosebleed, me!
since year end +15.4%
1 year +24.5%
3 year +20.6%
5 year +21.2%
Mebbee I can actually retire some day.
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10-03-2007, 09:08 PM
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Pigs Get Fat Hogs Get Slaughtered
Always nice to see great gains but remember to pull back some of your profits.. You will sleep better at night.
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10-04-2007, 04:12 AM
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It reminds me of me years ago, bragging about my 37% return. Things started going sour but my so called "financial experts" told me you have to look long term so stay in and ride it out. Then I lost everything gained and much of what I contributed. Took many years to get back to even. I should have listened to my gut and not have been so greedy.
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10-05-2007, 01:14 PM
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What's wrong with my thinking that I'm surprised to see that both my equities and "full faith and credit" funds are nicely up?
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10-08-2007, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by packrat44
Here we go again. Suppose there will be a big sell-off tomorrow?
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Guess there wasn't. 
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10-08-2007, 10:43 PM
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What's wrong with my thinking that I'm surprised to see that both my equities and "full faith and credit" funds are nicely up?
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The old joke is that if everything you own goes up at once then you're not properly diversified. We've had several of those this year.
Berkshire Hathaway started another runup last week... 12% YTD.
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10-10-2007, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Nords
The old joke is that if everything you own goes up at once then you're not properly diversified. We've had several of those this year.
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Exactly. I recently bailed down to 4% equities and am on the way toward a new AA which will increase equities using new money and excess yield. Should get up to 10% equities within about 9 months and then move on toward 25%, etc. Its amusing because my old AA (67% equities) really balanced so that the bottom line didn't move for a long time--also a plan I won't repeat.
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Lost money on the golf course today and...........
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10-19-2007, 01:53 PM
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Lost money on the golf course today and...........
more in the stock market. What kind of retirement is this? 
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10-19-2007, 02:02 PM
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Easy come, easy go. Market will come back. Can't help you on the golf issue.
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10-19-2007, 02:49 PM
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Hey! Our gold stock BGEIX gained almost exactly what our Hewlett-Packard lost. Pretty cool! Ended up loosing just as many dollars for the day as the number of points the Dow lost. Can you tell we don't have a great wad in the market? If tomorrow brings another crummy day i may actually splurge and buy something boring.
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10-19-2007, 02:54 PM
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Quote:
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If tomorrow brings another crummy day i may actually splurge and buy something boring.
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You are a risk taker. Tomorrow is Saturday.
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10-19-2007, 02:57 PM
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Ahh. the life of a landlord is lacking in "weekends" - so investors have to actually track days of the week? This may get too complicated ...
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10-19-2007, 03:51 PM
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The difference is that if you work hard on the stock market you'll get better with age.
Sellers went nuts today. Wish we didn't already have everything fully invested...
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10-19-2007, 04:00 PM
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What goes up, must come down...
Spinning wheel, got to go round.. 
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