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Yeah, possibly the least offensive product of the bunch, at least the CD-type ones. The delayed payout ones with long delays are sometimes egregiously sold to the elderly and have humongous surrender penalties. Occasionally this behavior comes to light and an insurance commissioner does something about it, but not too often.
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Just my opinion, but I don't see any advantage to a fixed annuity any more....wait, let me think about it......nope.
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Pretty much agree.
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Bond funds or ladders??
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I encourage all to familiarize themselves with our community rules in advance. These include:
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So we are supposed to treat this marketing effort as a face value discussion?
Not playing, then.
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Confused about dryer sheets
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I think a poster's statements, discussions, and threats concerning similar subject matter on another financial forum are relevant in assessing credibility.
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I agree.
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2007 Annuity Sales?
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Stock Brokers sell the vast majority of ALL annuities nationwide. ![]() Let have a review: Quote:
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FireMe, this Community Rule...
Do not post the same discussion more than once or in many forums. ...refers to posting the same information on multiple forums on the E-R board (Fire and Money, Life after FIRE, etc.). As Rich says, information from another financial forum other than E-R, can be relevant. |
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I'm sure they do, how else are they going to make money and rip us off?
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Just a reminder on how you can DIY an EIA (assuming you think the strategy is a good idea - I am less than wild about it):
http://www.early-retirement.org/foru...eia-34656.html
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Gary, do you have a Series 7 license?
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I believe Gary has left the building...
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Been burned way too often in bond funds (especially high quality ones). If you've got the time, do laddered zeros. If you don't, but have the money, do a diversified portfolio of munis.
If you have a small sum of money and want monthly income that is non- taxable, muni bond funds may be your only option. However, I'd still avoid closed end funds. Just too volatile for me. And here's where I lose my buddy Brewer,....VA's now have guaranteed annual step ups that are higher than the fixed annuity rates, with a chance for market growth. Why bother with fixed anymore? All JMO. |
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BTW, I don't think it is appropriate to use what someone has said on other boards as a determinant factor. Even criminals get out on parole. Perhaps the guy is trying to turn over a new leaf?
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Looks to me like he was trying to dig up some new clients...
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Art, your fellow sales-slug was obviously shilling for clients. Even you have to have been able to see that.
Naturally, I assume he gave you the secret handshake to help him out or at least keep mum.
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Anyway, did it look at all like I was helping the guy or keeping mum? Do you think you should get blackballed from all sites just because you're a jerk? To tell the truth, I can't figure out why you haven't been banned. |
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