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Re: SIMPLE IRA - Is this an excess contribution?
02-05-2007, 06:32 PM
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Re: SIMPLE IRA - Is this an excess contribution?
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The pensiononline calculator seems to make some sense--look at the breakdown. Retire@40, what do you think?
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Well, they got the SEP-IRA number correct.
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Re: SIMPLE IRA - Is this an excess contribution?
02-05-2007, 06:58 PM
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Re: SIMPLE IRA - Is this an excess contribution?
Despite what all these varied calculators say, I am still inclined to think that gindie and you figured it out right from the beginning, so I am not arguing with you.
I don't understand how they got to 929.50. It seems like they should have taken their 923.50 number and then added in a 3% employer contribution, but what do I know.
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Re: SIMPLE IRA - Is this an excess contribution?
02-07-2007, 06:17 PM
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Re: SIMPLE IRA - Is this an excess contribution?
FYI, here's what the folks who hold the SIMPLE say:
The employee-side contribution limit is $923.50 ($1000.00 X (1/2 SE Tax rate))
The employer contribution is a 3% match of the gross income ($1000.00 X .03%) for an employer contribution of $30.00
The total contribution in this example is $923.50 +$30.00 or $953.50. Because $953.50 is less than the gross compensation (or 100% of business income) the contribution is allowed.
I need to contact TaxCut to find out why their software is complaining.
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Re: SIMPLE IRA - Is this an excess contribution?
02-07-2007, 07:10 PM
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Re: SIMPLE IRA - Is this an excess contribution?
Yeah! We do a better job than TaxCut, and umpteen calculators. Congratulations Gindie for being right from the get go.
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Re: SIMPLE IRA - Is this an excess contribution?
02-07-2007, 07:31 PM
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Re: SIMPLE IRA - Is this an excess contribution?
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Yeah! We do a better job than TaxCut, and umpteen calculators. Congratulations Gindie for being right from the get go.
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Martha -
Actually, retire@40 and I computed the 3% on the 923.50, not the $1000 gross. It's only a couple of bucks; I don't know how much the IRS will scrutinize this.
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Re: SIMPLE IRA - Is this an excess contribution?
02-07-2007, 09:21 PM
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Re: SIMPLE IRA - Is this an excess contribution?
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FYI, here's what the folks who hold the SIMPLE say:
The employee-side contribution limit is $923.50 ($1000.00 X (1/2 SE Tax rate))
The employer contribution is a 3% match of the gross income ($1000.00 X .03%) for an employer contribution of $30.00
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For the love of God!
When you are self-employed, the matching contribution is based on $924, not $1,000!!!
You were correct the first time.
Ask "the folks" if they have ever read IRC Sec 1402.
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Re: SIMPLE IRA - Is this an excess contribution?
02-08-2007, 07:29 AM
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Re: SIMPLE IRA - Is this an excess contribution?
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For the love of God!
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I don't blame you for your comment. With all this twisting in the wind, I misread what Gindie's plan provider said about how to calculate the 3% portion of the contribution. And the many varied answers from different plan providers are disturbing.
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When you are self-employed, the matching contribution is based on $924, not $1,000!!!
You were correct the first time.
Ask "the folks" if they have ever read IRC Sec 1402.
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Gindie, here is a link to 26 USC 1402 that defines self employment income:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/us...2----000-.html
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